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simone



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Now Mostly @ Home

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Linux for virgins Reply with quote

All right, so my "entertainment computer" (a cheapo WinXP box I bought 2 years ago for the sole purpose of downloading television shows and playing on my tv through S-video output) has now choked.

It won't fully start up half the time and sometimes acts like I've interrupted the Windows installation process, and wants me to provide the disks... but since it came with the "preinstalled" windows (legal? prolly not) from the little shop around the corner where I bought it, I have no such disks.

Since both Azereus and VLC media player have linux versions, and I can use Firefix as well, I think, I might as well take the plunge and go with a Linux OS. I've thought about trying it for a while - and I might as well start on a box that I don't care about that much, right?

So, I've seen ubuntu mentioned here and there - is that a good place to start? Anyone done anything similar with Linux? Any suggestions for me?
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get Linux Mint. Its a distro based off of Ubuntu. Install is simple. you download it, burn it to a CD, and then pop the CD in to your computer.

Try that out.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Search for Linux Live Cd or Linux Live DVD

DL them burn them and try them

I have used Ubuntu and Mepis. Found Mepis to behave better than ubuntu but needed more tweaking. Mepis came with codecs etc already installed.

I DL Science Linux Live DVD last week to play with. Don't think it can be installed but it's based on SUSE.

There is an Ubuntu live DVD if you search for it as well with a huge amount of utilities on it.
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gsxr750r



Joined: 29 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Mephis still the easiest?
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Ubuntu is a strong desktop distro, but it falls short for some users in a few areas. Where are the multimedia codecs and DVD support, and what's with all the brown, for heaven's sake? If you'd like multimedia support with a minty fresh theme, try Linux Mint 2.2, an Ubuntu-based distro that throws in support for Flash 9, Windows Media Format, DVDs, MP3s, and troublesome wireless cards."
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll look into Mint.

There is also KUbuntu as well if you want to use the KD-desktop.
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luvnpeas



Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Debian?
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to use ubuntu with codecs and stuff get automatix. It's an installer program. You click on what you want and it installs it, takes a long time to install everything though!
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this thread should be a sticky!

cbc
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mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do go with Ubuntu, check out Ubuntu Ultimate.

What is Ubuntu Ultimate Edition? It is Ubuntu Edgy Eft with the following software pre-added:

* KDE desktop environment
* Gnome desktop environment
* Enlightenment desktop environment
* Windowmaker desktop environment
* Additional themes, theme engines & screensavers
* Busybox
* Network security tools
* Manrip & Lemonrip - DVD ripping software
* Yamipod - Ipod software
* Many apps for KDE (too many to list)
* New theme / splash screen / wallpaper
* New sound theme
* VCD Gear debian style
* Subversion & build tools
* Wireless Internet integration
* Bluetooth integration
* PPP integration
* Networking tools
* 35 Additional fonts
* Tons more themes
* Repository driven Beryl
* New sounds theme
* Integrated Custom repository support
* All current Updates 158 at time of posting
* IPod support
* Beagle
* Gramps - Genealogy software (thanks poweruser2600)
* Legends - Video Game
* Kapote - Instant Messenger
* Integrated codecs (the good the bad & the ugly)
* Mplayer, VLC, Songbird & Amarok players with mp3 support
* Mencoder, K9Copy, DeVeDE, DVD Shrink - dvd copying software.
* Integrated Nvidia drivers (will work with other cards)
* Automatix 2 & Automatix Bleeder (in case you want additional software)
* Gaim beta 5 & plugins
* GFTP - FTP Client
* KVIrc - IRC Client
* Additional Themes, icons, cursors & logins
* XSnow
* Samba
* NFS
* EasyTag - MP3 Tag Editor
* GDesklets
* Inkscape - 2D vector drawing
* Screem - HTML Editor
* Gambas - Programing environment
* QEMU & Kqemu Accelerator - Emulation
* Screem - HTML Editor
* Avidemux - Avi (divx /xvid) editor
* GDesklets - Eyecandy & info
* NTFS read / write support
* Lamp - web server (Apache2, mysql, PHP5)
* phpmyadmin
* Azureus - P2P software
* MS core Font's and extra fonts
* Wine - Windows emulation (always newest version - through repo)
* Alien - Allows installation of foriegn packages (RPM, suse etc)
* Gobby Team programing software
* Ksnapshot - Screen capture software
* Google Picasa - Graphic editing software
* Frostwire Pro - P2P software
* Kolourpaint - Graphic editing software
* Qcad - Autocad wannabe
* Archive Suite - virtually any archive can be handled.
* Ajunta IDE - Programing environment
* Bluefish - HTML Editor
* Glade - Interface designer
* Gtranslator
* Bit Tornado - P2P Software
* Amule - P2P software
* Kino - Flick editor
* Audacity - Sound editor
* Debian Menu (pdmenu)
* Dvdrip - Dvd ripping software
* Democracy Player
* Listen Media Manager
* Steamripper
* Ilinux (banshee)
* Gnucash - Financial software
* Aria - Download manager
* Build Essentials and make utility's
* Quanta Plus and extras - HTML Editor
* Graveman - burning software
* New Grub splash screen and animated "very pretty" boot up screen
* Bum - Boot-up manager
* Sum - Startup manager (newer improved version gtk and terminal based)
* Istanbul - Live screen capture
* Ghex - Hex editor
* Gourmet - Recipe manager
* Isomaster - CD / DVD ISO editor
* GPHPEdit - PHP Editor
* Kino - Clip editor
* Aria - Download manager
* Democracy - Movie streamer
* ClamAV - Anti-virus software
* Listen - Media manager
* DVD|RIP - Dvd ripping software
* Lifrea - RSS feed reader
* Brasero - Disc burning tool
* X-Chat - IRC Client
* QDVDAuthor - DVD authoring software
* SMP Support (dual core CPUS) / works with single core as well
* 121 Additional Updates
* New Grub boot screen
* New theme and animated bootscreen
* New GDM theme
* New splash screen & wallpaper
* Updated Beryl
* Capture card support - TVTime / ATI-All-in-wonder
* Gaim Beta 6 - prebuilt with plugins.
* GKRealm - Realtime hardware monitor
* MGM - Moaning Goat Meter
* Newer Amarok then can be obtained from edgy repos
* Hardinfo - System information
* GTKPod - Ipod Sync software
* HTop - Process viewer
* Sysinfo - System information
* IPodder - Ipod sync software
* XSensors - Hardware sensor software
* Addition networking and wireless tools
* Gpixpod - Photo sync software for Ipod
* IPodslave - an iPod IO slave
* Xpenguins - Thanks Maddog
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just wondering how these linux OSs handle hardware drivers, Video card, wireless network, routers and USB devices?


Should I get these drivers from the various manufacturers before I instll the OS.

cbc
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the saint



Joined: 09 Dec 2003
Location: not there yet...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got Ubuntu on a disk next to me. Trouble is, when I install it, I get full disk warnings. I've got my system on a partition which doesn't seem to be big enough. anyone know how much space Ubuntu needs to install alongside windoze?
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's fine to install alongside windows.

Use Acronis disk editor to change the partition size and make an EXT2 and a linux swap file.

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I DL Suse live 10.2 yesterday and had a play with that. Found it of a faff to use but it has a good community.
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mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a good video showing you how to dual boot XP and Ubuntu.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
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the saint



Joined: 09 Dec 2003
Location: not there yet...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
It's fine to install alongside windows.

Use Acronis disk editor to change the partition size and make an EXT2 and a linux swap file.


1. Can I change the partition size "live" i.e. without reformatting? Sounds too good to be true.
2. Could you translation everything after "size" into English for me Wink

Cheers
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