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deetah



Joined: 14 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:01 pm    Post subject: Help With Middle School Students Conversation Classes!!!!!!! Reply with quote

Please help me!!!
As of Monday I am starting to "teach" conversation classes with three middle school students. In my past experience, my middle school students don't talk and look like they are completely exhausted and or utterly bored.

Any suggestions for 45 minute conversation classes? Games, discussion topics, motivation tips?

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! Sad
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turtlepi1



Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Help With Middle School Students Conversation Classes!!! Reply with quote

deetah wrote:
Please help me!!!
As of Monday I am starting to "teach" conversation classes with three middle school students. In my past experience, my middle school students don't talk and look like they are completely exhausted and or utterly bored.

Any suggestions for 45 minute conversation classes? Games, discussion topics, motivation tips?

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! Sad


You are SOOOO lucky...I got thrown into the same situation with a 90 minute class...you think 45 minutes is dreadful think about 90. My class sometimes is 8 middle school kids, but generally between 1-3.

When it is one we mostly shoot the shit...talk about soccer, school, vacation, sports, etc.

When it is a class of 9 I sometimes use a list of themed questions, give them time to come up with some answers, and then play "murder ball" ask a question then they throw a ball of paper at the next person and ask them a question...

Another thing I do is download strange pictures off the internet and put them in a group to discuss it and make up a story about it.

A final class I use sometimes is "logic puzzles" I will get an english logic puzzle then give them time to sort out what it is asking. Then I will get them to explain what it is asking in English then give them some time to try to solve it.

As an alternative, which hasn't worked very well for me, you can get a conversation topics book. Each page has a scenario, pollution, homework, etc, etc...give it to them the week before so they can figure it out and make some notes, and then you can lead a discussion on the topic..have lots of leading questions ready though....

I haven't found a GOOD book..though we have many books specifically geared towards conversing with Korean middle school students...generally they suck...or at least I "think" they suck...therefore..they suck Wink
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Help With Middle School Students Conversation Classes!!! Reply with quote

deetah wrote:
Please help me!!!
As of Monday I am starting to "teach" conversation classes with three middle school students. In my past experience, my middle school students don't talk and look like they are completely exhausted and or utterly bored.

Any suggestions for 45 minute conversation classes? Games, discussion topics, motivation tips?

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! Sad


My best class consists of three 13-year-old boys. What works better than anything else is to get them to make their own sentences based on the vocabulary in our text-books. Write a series of verbs in one tense, adjectives, prepositions, and nouns on the boards and try to get them to be a bit creative. 'Will the stupid boy be crazy in front of the gorilla?'. 'Will the ugly girls be curious in the men's room?'. It's pretty funny what they come up with.
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DavePuff



Joined: 01 Jan 2005
Location: Daegu, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know where you're coming from. I have 6 middle school students 3 times a week for 50 minutes a class and I often run out of things to talk about.

I've used most of the subjects out of text books, all of which the students never really talk a great deal about. They don't want to write (its like squeezing water out of rocks) and they get sick of puzzles.

I've heard scrabble and boggle are two games they enjoy and with that in mind will invest in a scrabble board in a few days (it'll be worth forking the money out for it!).

Any other ideas would be much appreciated.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Music...pop songs.
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butter808fly



Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: Northern California, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a lot of material in my book to use for our middle school class, but getting them to willingly talk is a whole other issue! If I actually gave them a topic to discuss or when I ask them to do partner work, they dont use English they use Korean to discuss the answers! ahhhhhh! I think 50 mins is totally easy to fill (do you give a test a day, theres 5-10 mins right there) but getting them to converse with me, or each other (would be ideal) is a joke! Id love tips here as well.

op: do you use a book of some kind? Its a nice starting point to get ideas from.

Also, I brought it pictures from a american magazine last week and they are just thrilled with an American Ad Smile So, creative fun things like that get them interested. We talked about the ADs a bit.
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Ody



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are middle school students and there are middle school students. if they're interested (not entirely unheard of), they're cool.

it's difficult to advise on lesson plans without a clear idea of their level.

how 'bout an update? what's their level?
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a middle school teacher but I'm kind of lucky because I'm their regular day time teacher.

Most of the time my classes dove tail off of their regular classes but at the moment we are doing:

Drama. My friend found a parody on the movie titanic so we have been doing some acting.
Art. Don't forget that older kids also benefit from this. I got them to construct those name anagram things. Eg.

Cool
Really beautiful
Awesome Teacher from New
Zealand.
Yeah!

We've done a couple of hours on computers (I teach boys) Identifying parts, talking what makes a good computer. Also good for teaching compartives and superlatives as they to buy a fictional computer. They also have to make a homeshopping advertisement (using drama and art again)

They also love talking about food. Etc.

Also some good books to look at are the Gateway series plus american headway which have good topical stuff in there.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
I'm a middle school teacher but I'm kind of lucky because I'm their regular day time teacher.

Most of the time my classes dove tail off of their regular classes but at the moment we are doing:

Drama. My friend found a parody on the movie titanic so we have been doing some acting.
Art. Don't forget that older kids also benefit from this. I got them to construct those name anagram things. Eg.

Cool
Really beautiful
Awesome Teacher from New
Zealand.
Yeah!

We've done a couple of hours on computers (I teach boys) Identifying parts, talking what makes a good computer. Also good for teaching compartives and superlatives as they to buy a fictional computer. They also have to make a homeshopping advertisement (using drama and art again)

They also love talking about food. Etc.

Also some good books to look at are the Gateway series plus american headway which have good topical stuff in there.



Hey, you stole my computer idea! That's ok. Smile

I'm using that one in Winter School in a few weeks with the new girls. Unfortunately, they aren't as obsessive about it as boys.
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turtlepi1



Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So once a week I teach a middle school class...it is very small and 90 minutes long. We always get through it but only because the couple of kids are pretty mature and take responsibilty for their learning...(a surprise for kids of any culture at that age not just Korean children)

Anyway I was told last week I would have to teach a combined class or 1st year middle school students thru 3rd year highschool students...(conversation class 90 minutes)

I was sort of dreading it. Not that I couldn't get through it, but I find it like pulling teeth. Well taught it last night and once again I was pleasently surprised. Even though their level wasn't quite high enough to, they managed to talk (in english) the entire time without much prompting from me to keep it moving. I think over time it would be a problem as we run out of things to talk about but it make a very good impression of the students.

As for the Middle school (public) teachers in the group. I found yet another reason why your kids fall asleep in class. Our hagwan is teaching a "special" camp over the holidays for grade 6 students going into first year middle school. Guess which text book they are using...yup you've got it...the national middle school textbooks.

And unlike middle school there aren't 30 of them in a class so they are "forced" to learn the material (by a Korean teacher that believes in achievement and discipline.)
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knee-highs



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: yes

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Re: Help With Middle School Students Conversation Classes!!! Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
deetah wrote:
Please help me!!!
As of Monday I am starting to "teach" conversation classes with three middle school students. In my past experience, my middle school students don't talk and look like they are completely exhausted and or utterly bored.

Any suggestions for 45 minute conversation classes? Games, discussion topics, motivation tips?

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! Sad


My best class consists of three 13-year-old boys. What works better than anything else is to get them to make their own sentences based on the vocabulary in our text-books. Write a series of verbs in one tense, adjectives, prepositions, and nouns on the boards and try to get them to be a bit creative. 'Will the stupid boy be crazy in front of the gorilla?'. 'Will the ugly girls be curious in the men's room?'. It's pretty funny what they come up with.


"ugly girls will be curious in the mens' room" /quote


Ha HA HA
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swetepete



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play a good conversation game that can be adapted for virtually every level. It's called, in the form I learned it, 'say three things.' I call it 'the Dragon."
Draw a big old dragon or snake on the board, divided into about twenty segments. Each segment has a word or phrase on it, like "hate!" or "love!" or "hobbies" or "countries" or "languages." They go from the dragon's tail to the head, and everywhere they land, they have to say a few things about whatever that segment says. "Favourite movies," they tell you their fave and then tell you why, if they're on that level.
You can do a simple one for elementary, all the way up to fluent high school kids or even uni, except with the higher level students you'll have to give them tougher questions.
I'm teaching a bunch of TOEFL speaking and writing classes now, so on the dragon, every few spaces, I'll put "toefl question." I hit them with one of the independent speaking task questions. Works very well.
You can of course ask them lots of questions along the way as well, and cajole them into explaining more about their opinions.
I like to flip a coin to see how far they move; if they call heads or tails correctly, they move one space, and continue until they lose. Paper Rock Scissors would work well for this as well. Generally they'll not get to move more than three or four spaces at a time.
Game gets tougher if five kids all land on 'countries,' because while they all know Japan and America and New Zealand, once they get upwards of ten countries, you can actually teach them some new ones.
I have a trinket for the winner--a hand-phone doohickey, or a chocolate bar, or something like that.
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inverse_narcissus



Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Masan / the pub

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, swetepete, for the snake idea! I've also got a conversation class to teach, and I'm going to try it out tomorrow.
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The Soju Hoju



Joined: 29 Nov 2006
Location: Bus 26, 200 yards past Lotteria on the left

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume your a teacher....what a ridiculous post.............you need to ask what to teach for 3 students. That typifies what's wrong with this country and the people who ' supposedly ' come and ' teach ' here. Get a life.
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kiwiliz



Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Soju Hoju wrote:
I assume your a teacher....what a ridiculous post.............you need to ask what to teach for 3 students. That typifies what's wrong with this country and the people who ' supposedly ' come and ' teach ' here. Get a life.


I for one am grateful to the original OP. I can always do with new ideas. I take it you are never stuck..never have a blank moment. I really get annoyed with negative idiotic posters like you.

If you had bothered to look the OP posted this in 2004...probably not even here to read your reply...thank goodness
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