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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: Good hogwans in Daegu: from the parents' perspective |
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A lot of my co-workers live in Daegu and the question of English hogwans sometimes comes up. They're generally pretty clueless, even the English teachers. I know what chains to tell them to avoid but knowing what to recommend is a different matter. I know that Yale Academy has a very good and well deserved reputation. A few of my older high school students have gone to YBM and liked it, but that was the adults' programme and of course their kiddie hogwans don't on the whole have a good reputation.
Any other ones people know of that are recommendable? |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ILE - owner is North American and a very professional young learner's advocate. Not to mention he is KOTESOL's 2nd Vice President. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. What does ILE stand for? |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hehehe.. I don't know..
If you are interested, PM me and I can give you details.. owner's name, phone number etc. |
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plokiju

Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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I've heard good things about MoonKkang but students I've had who used to go there complained about lots of homework. That seemed to be the biggest complaint about Yale also. Those students though were able to speak English much better than other students. I don't know why people think that there are shortcuts to learning languages.
After I told my students that I'd been fired, one of them (a middle school student) told me to go get a job at Yale or MoonKkang since those schools were much better in her opinion. She'd said her mother decided to send her to the hagwon where I was working. Probably a money thing, I'd figured. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| plokiju wrote: |
After I told my students that I'd been fired, one of them (a middle school student) told me to go get a job at Yale or MoonKkang since those schools were much better in her opinion. She'd said her mother decided to send her to the hagwon where I was working. Probably a money thing, I'd figured. |
The bad thing about working for Yale is that they usually require first year teachers to work Saturdays. |
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wire
Joined: 01 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Moonkkang's curriculum is such that you'll need a lobotomy to re-sign. And they allow for no sick days in their contract.
On a bright note, the soon-to-be new foreign teacher manager is a cool guy; he speaks fluent Korean. The Korean liason guys who help foreign teachers with their problems are good guys. They always pay on time. If you stay with MK, they give you a raise and more vacation with each new contract..
If you have massive debt and an uncanny ability to put your mind someplace else (like Nelson Mandela imprisoned on Robben Island), MK might be for you. |
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plokiju

Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| Was this a thread about good hagwons for parents to send their kids or good hagwons to work for? I haven't worked at either schooland I don't know anything about their cirriculum but those 2 (Yale and MK) were the schools I've also heard offer the best as far as contracts and pay, at least of the chains in Daegu. Of course, what good can really be said about a chain school? I'm sure all the really great schools to work for and send your kids are small schools without much of a reputation among foreigners. |
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seoulsista
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| wire wrote: |
| The Korean liason guys who help foreign teachers with their problems are good guys. |
I have to take issue with this statement. |
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wire
Joined: 01 Aug 2006
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| I have to take issue with this statement. |
Let me clarify, if you're a teacher with a non-life-threatning problem that requires MK to spend money, they won't help you. |
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joyjoy12
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| wire wrote: |
Moonkkang's curriculum is such that you'll need a lobotomy to re-sign. And they allow for no sick days in their contract.
On a bright note, the soon-to-be new foreign teacher manager is a cool guy; he speaks fluent Korean. The Korean liason guys who help foreign teachers with their problems are good guys. They always pay on time. If you stay with MK, they give you a raise and more vacation with each new contract..
If you have massive debt and an uncanny ability to put your mind someplace else (like Nelson Mandela imprisoned on Robben Island), MK might be for you. |
Could you elaborate on what you mean regarding their curriculum? Do they allow for flexibility with their curriculum? |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure of a particular one as except for the one I work I don't really know.
If I was a parent I would want
- No korean in the academy(actual academy policy)
- less vocab sheets( no endless rote learning of vocab)
- small class sizes
- students rigorously level tested
- alot of feedback from teachers
- presentations, projects(cos I liked those when i was a kid:)
thats what I would want if I had a kid. |
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