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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: You are naughty Reply with quote

My Korean co-teacher got in trouble from a parent for calling a student naughty. (in English) I guess.

Is that really such a big deal?
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rockstarsmooth



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and this is connected to the kennedy assassination conspiracy theory how?
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Arrow right now i'm listening to: rage against the machine - how i could just kill a man
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:56 am    Post subject: Re: You are naughty Reply with quote

regicide wrote:
My Korean co-teacher got in trouble from a parent for calling a student naughty. (in English) I guess.

Is that really such a big deal?


Are you in a hakwon?

Hakwon kids are never naughty. They are always perfect angels in their parents eyes.

If you are in a public school then I am as surprised as all get out.
Normally the teacher would politely ignore a rude parent and then punish the kid again.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: You are naughty Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
regicide wrote:
My Korean co-teacher got in trouble from a parent for calling a student naughty. (in English) I guess.

Is that really such a big deal?


Are you in a hakwon?

Hakwon kids are never naughty. They are always perfect angels in their parents eyes.

If you are in a public school then I am as surprised as all get out.
Normally the teacher would politely ignore a rude parent and then punish the kid again.


I wish that were true. In the public schools I work in, the teachers are very afraid of upsetting the parents. When I teach Korean English teachers they are often telling me about how they feel they have no power anymore and must always bow to the wishes of parents.
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regicide



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: You are naughty Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
regicide wrote:
My Korean co-teacher got in trouble from a parent for calling a student naughty. (in English) I guess.

Is that really such a big deal?


Are you in a hakwon?

Hakwon kids are never naughty. They are always perfect angels in their parents eyes.

If you are in a public school then I am as surprised as all get out.
Normally the teacher would politely ignore a rude parent and then punish the kid again.


Hogwan
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pest2



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe to some koreans who are dumb in the ways of english language, "naughty" is synonymous with "sexually promiscuous?" Just a thought....
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regicide



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pest2 wrote:
maybe to some koreans who are dumb in the ways of english language, "naughty" is synonymous with "sexually promiscuous?" Just a thought....



I need to make it clear we do not "co-teach" , in the sense we are in the room at the same time.

I am not sure about that but the mother grilled the teacher privately for over half an hour. The owner/director backed the teacher but had to do his "smooth job" to the parent.

The student is a trouble maker in the class and in fact, disrupts the whole class and makes it difficult to conduct the class.

I do not know the full extent of what happened , but I believe she simply tried to put the kid into his place. I do it all the time. I say " you are naughty" in Korean all the time. Mostly joking. Sometimes I scream at the kids and my face almost explodes at this same hogwan.

As suggested on the thread behind me, I believe Korean mothers have way too much time on their hands. That woman needs to get a job-and a life!
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philogirl81



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't use the word "Silly" in any of my classes because of what it means in Korean. Not because of what it means in English.
Although I'm also not supposed to wear my hair down either. Hogwons are weird.
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oneofthesarahs



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

philogirl81 wrote:

Although I'm also not supposed to wear my hair down either.


Uh....what?
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philogirl81



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oneofthesarahs wrote:
philogirl81 wrote:

Although I'm also not supposed to wear my hair down either.


Uh....what?


I have curly hair and the parents don't like it. My supervisor is a moron and makes my life horrible by giving me retarded rules. She said something about a parent saying that it makes me look african or something. I think that no parent said it but it's in my supervisors head.
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garykasparov



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The parent should have been given an ultimatum to take her kid elsewhere if she can't treat the teacher with respect. It sounds like the director has no backbone.

Get your Letter of Release and work somewhere else

http://www.efl-law.com/letter_of_release.php
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regicide



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garykasparov wrote:
The parent should have been given an ultimatum to take her kid elsewhere if she can't treat the teacher with respect. It sounds like the director has no backbone.

Get your Letter of Release and work somewhere else

http://www.efl-law.com/letter_of_release.php


The teacher in question wont need one since she is Korean.

The director did what a businessman had to do. She listened to a customer complaint and will then follow up on it, just like we do back home. She did not fault the (Korean) teacher and has moved unruly students to other classes before. Many of them eventually quit and there were no complaints to the teachers about the loss of revenue.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually take a step back and think about it. Did your teacher ever call you naughty? Did your teacher ever use the words crazy or stupid? I seem to remember them being quite aware of the parent factor and not wanting to upset them. There were cases of teachers getting upset with students, giving them detention, sending them out to the halls, to the principal's office, etc. Teachers got angry. But I think that they were very careful with things like that.

As a parent, I'd also be upset. That kind of thing can do some mental damage to a kid.

It, however, is not the end of the world.
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pest2



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe for your next lesson you could do paper folding using this book:



That might clear the air about the correct use of the word "naughty".
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willneverteachagain



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they cant tell u how to wear ur hair

if someone said that to me, it would be bu bye
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