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Does anyone hate teaching adults as much as me?
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salboski



Joined: 12 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Does anyone hate teaching adults as much as me? Reply with quote

I've really tried to get used to it, I just cant. It really wears on me because they are really intense. And, I just found out that the adult classes are getting doulbed from 3 per week to 6 per week. How do you guys deal with adults?
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Travelous Maximus



Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Location: Nueva Anglia

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soju = positive reinforcement.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone has different preferences. For me, teaching adults is heaven. I'd be a serial murderer if I had to teach kids.

I know what you mean about adults being intense. It can be intimidating. They like to know why we are doing a particular activity, so I explain what we are practicing with each activity. I have one student who doesn't like fluency activities because they are 'just small talk', but he is a minority of one. For him, I remind him of the kind of expressions and/or grammar he can practice with each discussion question.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At first my class was split up by age groups. I quickly learned that there were people who REALLY wanted to learn, and there were those who jsut wanted to get the requirements finished.

I told the vice principal that, and he told me to rearrange the classes into those you wanted to learn, and those you just wanted to attend.

Now it works out perfectly. To those that want to learn, I bring materials and teach. For those that just want to attend, I just bring in a movie and have everyone watch...err...sleep.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, salboski!

In reply to your question, yes, I do.
If there is any way for a teacher to alter his or her age preferences, I haven't found it.
I have lost count of how many times I got fired because I couldn't teach middle school or higher.
And on each of those jobs, I did my dangdest.

I hope that the other contributors to this thread are more help to you than I am.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate teaching adults.

I much prefer teens.

They are harder work but more satisfying to see results from them.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the advice my mom, a retired college professor, gave me about teaching adults: Don't stress. Whatever you do, you'll never be able to make everybody happy all the time.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywoodaction wrote:
Here's the advice my mom, a retired college professor, gave me about teaching adults: Don't stress. Whatever you do, you'll never be able to make everybody happy all the time.


Very true. Just do it the way you think is best - take advice, but don't necessarily agree with it.
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buster brown



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the same camp as Ya-ta. When I see the questioning looks of "Why the h*** are we doing this???", I tell them what it's useful for...even with warm-up activities. It's worked with the vast majority of adults from beginner to advanced classes.

When there's a serial complainer in the crowd, I just try to give them a little more attention when I'm visiting with pairs...maybe ask them a little harder or more personal questions. I've even been known to correct their speech a little more frequently/harshly than others just so that they recognize they're not quite as advanced as they think they are. The students who question or criticize my methods and materials tend to picture their English ability as higher than everyone else's in the class, thus they need something more difficult. The little extra attention/correction usually pacifies them enough to keep them in line. If it doesn't, then they'll just quit coming to class. Problem solved.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
For me, teaching adults is heaven. I'd be a serial murderer if I had to teach kids.


To me its the opposite.

Kids are fun and you can get away with teaching whatever you want.

Adults whine and are too sensitive. Its impossible to please them all either as they are always wildly differing levels. And then they don't learn from you unless you go out and drink soju with them. There are just waaaaay too many pitfalls to teaching adults. They all want very specific things out of the lesson too.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem I find with adults is that many are too eager to move up to, for example, the intermediate level class when they really need a lot more time in the beginner level. I've had a few whine and get huffy when told they are not ready to level up. Many of them either dropped out or went up anyway -- it's their money after all, the school isn't going to back you up.

All in all, I love teaching adults.
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salboski



Joined: 12 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not really looking for help on the subject. I just wanted someone to complain with. Very Happy

They were terrible yesterday. One of them complained about the lesson (from the book THEY chose) One of them came in reeking of Soju and I had two new students who barely knew any English in my advanced class. Most of the time they are just unresponsive to me and it makes the time pass very slowly.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

salboski wrote:
I'm not really looking for help on the subject. I just wanted someone to complain with. Very Happy

They were terrible yesterday. One of them complained about the lesson (from the book THEY chose) One of them came in reeking of Soju and I had two new students who barely knew any English in my advanced class. Most of the time they are just unresponsive to me and it makes the time pass very slowly.


I can sympathise with you. One of my classes is fantastic - great, talkative bunch of adjummas. My other class is like getting blood out of a stone.
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last adult class I had was mixed up in levels and had a book chosen by the teaching company that was full of mistakes and piss-poor quality. There were days where I was pulling teeth just to get someone to talk and say a simple sentence. The student would be just too god-damn afraid to talk in front of others. Other students would be bored to tears. I hated it.
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postfundie



Joined: 28 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There were days where I was pulling teeth just to get someone to talk and say a simple sentence.


Ohh how I get tired of saying this......You have to be strict with the ground rules the first day....No one word answers like yes and no....they kill conversations...always complete sentences and constantly telling them that good students ask questions to the teacher and to other students....even and idiot can utter at least one of those who,what,when,where,why,how questions.........Don't be annoyed make rules and ask easy questions.....then demand detailed answers...
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