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jinju
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 Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: Organized sports, why? |
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When I was at university I ws a huge fan of all the major North American sports. After I came to Korea, I lost interest in it really quickly. I now realize that the passive intake of anything is pretty sad.
Watching sports is a waste of time. Instead of watching that game, why not go outside and exercise instead? In the end, sports dont matter much. |
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butlerian
Joined: 04 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Organized sports, why? |
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| jinju wrote: |
When I was at university I ws a huge fan of all the major North American sports. After I came to Korea, I lost interest in it really quickly. I now realize that the passive intake of anything is pretty sad.
Watching sports is a waste of time. Instead of watching that game, why not go outside and exercise instead? In the end, sports dont matter much. |
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rawiri
Joined: 01 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Well at the end of the day photography doesn't amount to chit either. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| rawiri wrote: |
| Well at the end of the day photography doesn't amount to chit either. |
But with phootgraphy there is the act of creating. Its active. With watching sports its a passive intake. Very boring. |
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rawiri
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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So what do you make of people who look at your photo's?
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jinju
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| rawiri wrote: |
| So what do you make of people who look at your photo's? |
I dont make anything of them. I worry about myself. Im not saying all pasisve intake is bad. Certainly listening to music, reading books, looking at all sorts of photography, paintings, sculpture etc ...its not passive in that theres a large element of thought that goes into trying to undestand the work. With sports? Theres none, and I was a huge sports fan so I know. |
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jajdude
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Watching sports is a waste of time? The millions of fans must be wasting their time, enjoying their entertainment. Yeah, I guess The World Cup should be cancelled. Some people take sports more seriously than anything else in their lives. I like watching people who are excellent at something. It's not necessarily passive. You can be thinking of the strategies used or considering what a team or player might do in a given situation; you might be discussing with your friend the action taking place. People spend a lot of time and money for entertainment, and sports are huge.
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jinju
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| jajdude wrote: |
| millions of fans must be wasting their time. |
Yes. |
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rawiri
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Who says we constantly have to be engaged in critical analysis/deep thought regarding whatever it is we want to do at any point in time? |
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JMO
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| rawiri wrote: |
| So what do you make of people who look at your photo's? |
I dont make anything of them. I worry about myself. Im not saying all pasisve intake is bad. Certainly listening to music, reading books, looking at all sorts of photography, paintings, sculpture etc ...its not passive in that theres a large element of thought that goes into trying to undestand the work. With sports? Theres none, and I was a huge sports fan so I know. |
Depends how you look at it. When i watch american football, I put alot of thought into strategy, especially defensive schemes as that is my interest. When I look at photography I think " wow why do I always close my eyes in a picture'. Not everyone thinks like you. Yuo just don't like sports. Lets not start justofying our petty dislikes with some grand philosophy.
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| rawiri wrote: |
| Who says we constantly have to be engaged in critical analysis/deep thought regarding whatever it is we want to do at any point in time? |
We should. But thats not the issue, as often sports are all that many people are interested in. I really liken it to the obsession with tabloid news. Its on the same level of usefulness. |
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jinju
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| rawiri wrote: |
| So what do you make of people who look at your photo's? |
I dont make anything of them. I worry about myself. Im not saying all pasisve intake is bad. Certainly listening to music, reading books, looking at all sorts of photography, paintings, sculpture etc ...its not passive in that theres a large element of thought that goes into trying to undestand the work. With sports? Theres none, and I was a huge sports fan so I know. |
Depends how you look at it. When i watch american football, I put alot of thought into strategy, especially defensive schemes as that is my interest. When I look at photography I think " wow why do I always close my eyes in a picture'. Not everyone thinks like you. |
Its not a post about photography. Im not making the case of photography vs sports, Im making a case between active and passive intake/output. |
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tyleranthony
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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sports fandom is not at all "passive intake"...i go out to bars and watch games, attend sporting events (especially cubs games..wrigley field is amazing), invite people over to watch UFC/MMA fights and get drunk. do all sports fans watch games solo? no. watching/attending sporting events is for most a social event...
true, at the end of the day, the score of a football match does not matter, but the friendships and relationships you build with others is ultimately one of the only things that does matter...if sports can help foster relationships by giving people a common interest, who gives a flying *beep* whether or not its 'passive intake' or 'active output'.
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| I really liken it to the obsession with tabloid news. Its on the same level of usefulness. |
what an absolutely ludicrous comparison. seriously.
yes there is no inherent benefit or usefulness in watching sports, but watching/attending games with others is just one of the variety of ways you can exercise being a social human being.
the act of taking a photograph is equally useless. it is only the end product that has value, but only becomes valuable through this passive intake (consumption of 'art') you so vehemently detest.
i used this article in a sociology class i was a TA for. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3828767.stm
i dont think your case for passive/active intake/output is strong enough to standup against
a) over a billion football fans worldwide
b) the journalistic credibility of the bbc |
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