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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: Are artists superior? |
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Over the ages, it is the artists we remember. I would say only scientists rival artists in this regard, but I would liken them to eac other in that both create something new: art or in the case of scientists, new scientific theories, laws, etc.
From painting and sculture, to photography, to literature and music, are artists superior to others? |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Calling photography art is like calling a NASCAR driver an athlete. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Someone is just trying to stroke their own ego, that's all. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
| Calling photography art is like calling a NASCAR driver an athlete. |
There is some photography I wouldnt call an art. Some of it is. Infact I am with you in that I generally do not like art photography....it is too much removed from what I believe photography should be: a powerful tool for telling stories of the human condition. However, dismissing all photography as non-artistic, is a gross mistake IMVHO. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Someone is just trying to stroke their own ego, that's all. |
Not at all actually. Look at my reply to Pligganese. |
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kimchi story
Joined: 23 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Kenneth Clarke:
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Great nations write their autobiographies in three manuscripts, the book of their deeds, the book of their words and the book of their art. Not one of these can be understood unless we read the two others, but of the three the only trustworthy one is the last.
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I like to think artists are superior. |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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You're forgetting 2 groups that we remember, Politicians/Leaders and Generals/Warlords.
We remember the first group partly because of the giant monuments they have built to themselves or for their glory (Pyramids, Parthenon) or their mistakes they make (George Bush) We remember the second group simply because of how many dead, or how wide a swath of destruction they made (Ghengis Khan anyone?) and because, frankly, war is cool. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| riley wrote: |
You're forgetting 2 groups that we remember, Politicians/Leaders and Generals/Warlords.
We remember the first group partly because of the giant monuments they have built to themselves or for their glory (Pyramids, Parthenon) or their mistakes they make (George Bush) We remember the second group simply because of how many dead, or how wide a swath of destruction they made (Ghengis Khan anyone?) and because, frankly, war is cool. |
Yes, but the monuments are created by artists. The leaders simply comission them. Generals dont create, thats why I dont find them worthy of being called superior. |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Valid point but the leaders come up with money for the great projects and (at least in the modern era) the reason the monuments (loosely defined as a giant big thing) can also reflect the economy and success of the general people. If there's money for some GBH then I truly doubt it was because of some artist. An example would be Augustus, he commissioned a lot of different GBHs and was able to because Rome was secure, quiet and safe. All of these were due to him, not to the artist(s) who designed the structures.
It's great that an artist has ideas, and truthfully, they do think of things differently than others, but I truly doubt that they bring a greater effect to our world than other groups do. |
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manlyboy
Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| A lot of musicologists believe Wagner was a genius. Everyone remembers his art, but we'd all rather forget what kind of man he was. Superior art, but not a superior man. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| manlyboy wrote: |
| A lot of musicologists believe Wagner was a genius. Everyone remembers his art, but we'd all rather forget what kind of man he was. Superior art, but not a superior man. |
Wagner was a genius. His personality is of no importance. Let's leave personality judgments at the door. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Superior to what/who? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| Superior to what/who? |
The rest. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Rosa Parks and Terry Fox (for a start). Artists, warlords/generals, politicians/leaders, so many others...
Seriously, are you trying to stoke you ego here (I don't know if you are an artist or not Jinju, so just guessing). THe answer is no. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
Rosa Parks and Terry Fox (for a start). Artists, warlords/generals, politicians/leaders, so many others...
Seriously, are you trying to stoke you ego here (I don't know if you are an artist or not Jinju, so just guessing). THe answer is no. |
Im not stroking my own ego, look at my reply above to Pligganese. And yes, Rosa Parks is certainly there. Terry Fix too. They are worthy figures. |
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