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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: Mental problems |
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Do you have many students at your school with obvious mental problems. Not behavioral problems but geniune rewiring issues.
There are two at school that I have noticed. A young lad who turns everything on and opens every door cupboard in the classroom. Can't speak Korean very well.
A girl with possibly trisomy 21 but maybe not.
One the way to school every morning there is another young lad again possibly with trisomy who runs up to say hello everyday and ask me how I am.
There is a really big young guy who I see nearly every morning running at full speed up the alleys (more galloping) across the road and down the street. Again from the facial features something isn't correct.
When I lived here 4 years ago I never once saw anybody like this. Four years in Thailand there were maybe one or two but not many.
Are kids with problems (if you can call them problems really just rewiring issues) more common in the countryside and accepted here or is this a rare thing?
I know from general reading and understanding of Asia that quite often the kids are just kept at home (not sure if this is true or not but appeared to be the general consensus) |
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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Mental problems |
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| mrsquirrel wrote: |
A girl with possibly trisomy 21 but maybe not.
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How can you possibly say that? Do you have a medical background? ?Why would you even say Trisome 21...everyone else in the world would say Down's Syndrome.
I guess we have to look all edumacated and all and use big technical terms.
You're here to teach. One of the problems with Korea is parents who put their special needs children in class with regular kids.
It happens... there is a disabled kid in my hapkido class. I could say he has a Cyclothymic Disorder (but then I would sound like an A$$).
All the kids pick on him when the master isn't looking. Parents are oblivious. They think other kids treat them like friends and regular people. Usually they are beaten, teased and picked on. Some parents here are bigger retards than their kids. IMO |
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, only 2? You must not be at a big school. There are about 850 at my boy�s school and there are about a dozen. I had one student in Korean describe his impaired classmate as a �special guest� in class. I have a �special guest� in about every other class. |
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Mental problems |
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| Pak Yu Man wrote: |
| All the kids pick on him when the master isn't looking. Parents are oblivious. They think other kids treat them like friends and regular people. Usually they are beaten, teased and picked on. Some parents here are bigger retards than their kids. IMO |
The boys in my school really do not mistreat them. The last school play was in fact about a special needs kid. The point of the play was it is the responsibility of the other students to take care of the special needs kid. The head teacher was talking about sending the special need kid away to a special school, all of his classmates were pledging to do a better job to take care of him, and pleading not to have him sent away.
By the way, I was not confused about if the OP was a doctor. I just thought he was discussing the topic. |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Mental problems |
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How can you possibly say that? Do you have a medical background? ?Why would you even say Trisome 21...everyone else in the world would say Down's Syndrome.
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It's more interesting that you take offense to me using Trisomy rather than Down's. The girl has the facial features of Down's but there is another genetic disorder that produces the common facial features but the name eludes me now.
Why would you act like an a$$ because I used a medical term which I felt was appropriate.
I asked a question which required a decent intelligent response. If you can't muster one of those then reinsert your head into your a$$ where it belongs. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I've had no students with obvious mental problems, but have had five co-workers. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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loads of them in my classes. Strange really, can't remember seeing any at the schools I attended...  |
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formerflautist

Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| There are several special needs students at my school and for the most part they are treated very well by the other students. But that's also just what I see. They have a special room downstairs with their own teacher but a couple also attend regular vocational classes. I guess to judge progress you would have to know more about the students from previous generations. |
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roybetis1

Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Location: Not near a beach like my recruiter promised.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I've heard from a much more experienced teacher that it's practice for families in Seoul to send their challenged students to live with their grandparents in the country.
I don't know how true this is, I've lived both in the country and in Anyang and haven't noticed much difference.
I did notice that there are a lot fewer, or at least less noticeably, challenged kids here than in Tokyo. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a couple of kids at my alternate school (less than sixty students) who are screwy in some way. One of them, a boy, is a total freak. Yesterday in class he started hopping up and down on his chair and hooting like a howler monkey. Most of the other kids are protective of our few 'special' kids. Woe betide the student that I catch picking on or bullying them too. At my regular school, (boys private) I don't think we have any real disability cases. (701 students) |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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There are about 10 special needs children at my school. There is also one boy who has developmental delay, but it is not serious enough for him to be classed as special needs and attend classes with the other special needs kids.
The students in his class are, for the majority, kind to him, and I sit him on a table with students who I know won't bully him. He seems to like English and always tries to answer a question and says "Hello" when he sees me.
Unfortunately, I never see him hanging around with anyone which is sad. I guess he is kinda caught in the middle because he isn't special needs and he isn't quite "normal" for want of a better word.
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Is special needs the current PC term. I didn't know that.
It's good to see that they are being integrated into the school system in someway rather than kept locked inside.
One of the girls in my class doesn't speak. I thought initially that she was shy. After asking about here I was told she has a short tongue (which at first I thought was translation of something) she actually has a short tongue and doesn't speak.
Not sure how she communicates. |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Mental problems |
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| Pak Yu Man wrote: |
| mrsquirrel wrote: |
A girl with possibly trisomy 21 but maybe not.
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How can you possibly say that? Do you have a medical background? ?Why would you even say Trisome 21...everyone else in the world would say Down's Syndrome.
I guess we have to look all edumacated and all and use big technical terms.
You're here to teach. One of the problems with Korea is parents who put their special needs children in class with regular kids.
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Why is this a problem? So much for inclusion and least-restrictive environments... |
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jodemas2
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Mental problems |
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| Pak Yu Man wrote: |
| mrsquirrel wrote: |
A girl with possibly trisomy 21 but maybe not.
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How can you possibly say that? Do you have a medical background? ?Why would you even say Trisome 21...everyone else in the world would say Down's Syndrome. |
I don't see any problem with that. I understood Trisomy 21 and have had such students in special classes. I don't have any right now but I do have one who appears to have Klinefelter's Syndrome and another with Turner's.
The student who arrived discolored one day was suffering Idiopathic Thrombocytopenic Purpura.
The student who swore it wasn't she had to be suffering from Capgras' Syndrome.
Back when I began teaching I had student with phocomelia but I haven't seen one of them in decades. We nipped the teasing in the bud at the beginning and it wasn't a problem after that.
My hypospadias student once suffered an embarassing accident in class. We idin't see him for a few days after that.
Another student seems fine whenever he shows up but that is rare so I am almost sure his mother is suffering from Munchhausen's Syndrome by Proxy.
I once found a student naked with a rope around his neck. I thought I had just prevented a suicide in someone with Manic-Depression but it turns out he was merely indulging his paraphilia, Auto-erotic Asphyxia.
I can't say I have actually had any but frequently I'd swear that a significant proportion of some of my classes suffer from anencephaly, Others seems to be experienceing Catatonic Schizophrenia.
Not a student but a recent poster on this forum suffers from Hereditary Spherocytosis while I myself have beta-Thalassemia.
So I guess we all got special needs. No biggie. |
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boss penguin

Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
| I have a couple of kids at my alternate school (less than sixty students) who are screwy in some way. One of them, a boy, is a total freak. Yesterday in class he started hopping up and down on his chair and hooting like a howler monkey. Most of the other kids are protective of our few 'special' kids. Woe betide the student that I catch picking on or bullying them too. At my regular school, (boys private) I don't think we have any real disability cases. (701 students) |
Hey A$$hole, Has anyone ever told you to think before speaking, or in this case typing? You really are an insensitive, sonuvabich.
Freak? Screwy in some way? like a howler monkey? what ever happened to political correctness!! You're not a poet. You're a chiseler. |
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