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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Am I being unreasonable?? Reply with quote

So my public school elementary kids specifically the 5th and 6th graders I decided to give them a homework assignment each week. Nothing hard just some pictures with words at the bottom. They had to translate the word to korean and then write the words next to the numbered items on the pictures. My thinking is to just introduce some new vocabulary to them. I didnt think this to be very difficult, Hell I even did it in Korean just to see for myself. I warned the kids that if everyone didnt do the homework, even if it was one person, the next class we would spend the entire 40 mins writing "I will do my homework as instructed" for class. The Korean teachers nodded translated and the kids said ok..

Fast forward to today out of 9 classes 2 had everyone complete them. Two missed it by 1 person, and yes I informed the classes they will be writing next time.

Am I being unreasonable expecting them to follow simple instructions, or are they trying to see if i am bluffing. Should I care or just say to hell with it?

Thoughts? Opinions?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No but I think you're being unrealistic for Korea. In an elementary class of 20-40 someone's going to forget to do / bring their homework no matter how drastic the consequences.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem at my school. If I give the kids work, they just don't do it. I am lucky if I can get more than 5-10 kids to actually bring the homework the next time. Usually after the class where I have given the homework, there are at least 4-5 sheets still sitting on the desks or tucked away into the desks after they have left. And further, I can usually find 5-10 papers scattered throughout the hallways just thrown around.

I mentioned this to my co-workers and they just kind of gave me the old "what can you do" look and said there was no point in giving them homework because they won't do it.
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Scott in Incheon



Joined: 30 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that you are being unreasonable. You are punishing the kids who did their homework. Why? They don't have and are not responsible for the actions of their classmates, especially as this is homework...and not something done in the class where they might have a chance to influence their classmates.

Only the students who didn't do their homework should be punished. It is unreasonable to punish the whole class.
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott in Incheon wrote:
I would say that you are being unreasonable. You are punishing the kids who did their homework. Why? They don't have and are not responsible for the actions of their classmates, especially as this is homework...and not something done in the class where they might have a chance to influence their classmates.

Only the students who didn't do their homework should be punished. It is unreasonable to punish the whole class.


I thought of this when I first told the kids about it.. But in the end I decided to use the Korean peer pressure mentality. The kids are pretty good about policing themselves, and we all agreed upon it when I gave them the assignment. So its not like I just hit them with a bomb. Obviously I can't do this every week or I would acomplish nothing else in class. More of a first time shock value that I am not bluffing and will get the point across.
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think its unreasonable ot have everyone right, but 40 minutes seems a bit much. Maybe just 10 minutes or make a minimum number of reps each kid has to write, but everyone has to write until all kids have finished hte minimum.
One thing that really seems to deter my students is keeping them after class. You have 10 minute breaks after your class right? Keep the whole class and make them write during htat time. My kids hate not being able to run around like maniacs in the hall for ten minutes.
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kat2 wrote:
I don't think its unreasonable ot have everyone right, but 40 minutes seems a bit much. Maybe just 10 minutes or make a minimum number of reps each kid has to write, but everyone has to write until all kids have finished hte minimum.
One thing that really seems to deter my students is keeping them after class. You have 10 minute breaks after your class right? Keep the whole class and make them write during htat time. My kids hate not being able to run around like maniacs in the hall for ten minutes.


Yeah I have held them over a few times, and they do hate it.. Maybe I will cut it down to 100 times something like that.. I know some will say dont let it frustrate you or just dont care.. But being in a smaller school in the country the kids are really good and theyhave their moments of origionality. One girl named the chimnet a smokestack.. the rug a carpet.. the best was the basement/cellar she called the underworld...
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5th & 6th grade HW! Hahahahahahahahaha... Laughing Laughing Laughing Shocked
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