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WILL CRUSADERS JESSE AND AL GO AFTER RAPPERS NOW?
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stevemcgarrett



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: WILL CRUSADERS JESSE AND AL GO AFTER RAPPERS NOW? Reply with quote

Now that they've finished with Imus (and good riddance there), I'm sure the two reverends-without-a-church, Jesse and Al, will go after those other racist, sexist media hype types with a vengeance.

I'm speaking of course of the rapsters (not to be confused with musicians).

The top 5 rap singles this week all mention the N-word, hos, sexual vulgarity and degrading images of black women.

Snoop Dogg, the biggest loser rapper since Flava-Flav opined "eloquently" on the subject recently, making it clear why rapsters are off-limits:

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It's a completely different scenario," said Snoop, barking over the phone from a hotel room in L.A. "[Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC [the cable network home to Imus] going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha-----as say we in the same league as him.


Gee, Snoop, how come the lyrics of these rap songs all mention going hard on black girls? And let's see, it's ok for black men to go hard on blondes but if an old white man even so much as looks as a black girl, it just ain't cool.

Yes, the ol' double standard is alive and well. The ambulance chasers of the dying civil rights leadership maintains its vigilance, except not in their own backyard.

Maybe Ken Hamblin, the "Black Avenger," of the radio waves was right: the black community is experiencing a moral crisis.

Judging by this latest episode of selective indignation and the 70% of black children born out of wedlock, I'd say he might just have a point.

So who's more to blame? Imus, who makes a sleazy comment or the rapsters who rake in the buck pandering to the pants of young black men and their wannabe non-black brethren?
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twg



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, what you're telling us Steve is that you want to be able to say nigger.
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twg



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can admit it, Steve. We can't think any less of you than we do now.
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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i disagree with steve on 99.99% of what he posts but this one i'm in complete agreement with this one (with the exception of Imus getting canned, he was sacraficed for the pc police)

I want to know when CBS management will tell its radio stations not to play this music? My money says it wont Come on you got to be consistent, these rappers do more damage to women and the black community than Imus will ever do
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: WILL CRUSADERS JESSE AND AL GO AFTER RAPPERS NOW? Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
So who's more to blame? Imus, who makes a sleazy comment or the rapsters who rake in the buck pandering to the pants of young black men and their wannabe non-black brethren?

Despite the faux-Fox punditry, I think this is a fair point, and a lot of black leaders (I don't know about Jackson and Sharpton specifically) do criticise hiphop culture quite strongly indeed. Rightly so, I'd say.
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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to see radio stations, record company management, music stores all stop selling/playing this garbage

these rappers have more influence on the black community than a white 66 year old radio host will ever have
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endo



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve I somewhat see what you're getting at. Somewhat see.

But for somebody who likely hasn't had all that experience with the ladies (especially the ones who wear designer shoes and $400 hand bags), you need to understand that there are some legitimate hoes out there.

For real and if you listen to Snoop, he isn't talking about all women in general. Just the ones that chase rich men around for their money.

So basically the hoes Snoop talks about are quite different from a squad of women college basketball players.



Oh yeah, Sharpton and Jackson are more interested in lining their own pockets and extorting large companies for money than truely looking at the problems within their own community.
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khyber



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also don't really understand why black leaders don't try to "keep their house in order". It would lend so much more creedence to what they say.
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jinju



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont really care abput what Imus said. But he was such an asshole to Howard when h was just starting out. Its good to see people fall from their high horses. Imus sucked anyway. He was just not funny.
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stevemcgarrett



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This from The Two Reverends-without-a-Church today:

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Jackson called the firing "a victory for public decency. No one should use the public airwaves to transmit racial or sexual degradation."

Said Sharpton: "He says he wants to be forgiven. I hope he continues in that process. But we cannot afford a precedent established that the airways can commercialize and mainstream sexism and racism."


So I guess this means we can expect them to press for gangsta rap to be banned from the radiowaves now?

tw(i)g snapped:

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So, what you're telling us Steve is that you want to be able to say nig-ger.


Glad to see you haven't lost your bitterly cynical, irrelevant touch. Time to run off to Tokyo to work on those racist manga comics with Yamano and his ilk.

hogwonguy:

Now, admit it, you agree with at least 2% of my posts.

gang ah jee:

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a lot of black leaders (I don't know about Jackson and Sharpton specifically) do criticise hiphop culture quite strongly indeed


Actually, Sharpton has said boo about the rapsters since they used the same street language he's accustomed to. Jackson actually criticized them a few days ago, but only in passing.

The point is that neither they nor the other so-called concerned self-appointed black leadership has the guts and integrity to press the media to refrain from airing the most disgustingly sexist and racist song lyrics. And until Obama comes out against them he won't have my respect. Since he supports affirmative action in higher education, I'm not banking on it, though.

As an aside, one thing I enjoyed about Rush Hour was how they depicted the racist attitudes of blacks toward Asians through the character played by Chris Tucker. That's rare, of course. God forbid we would address black racism.

In the decade I lived in the Southwest and worked and lived in the black community the biggest source of racism was from blacks and directed at another rising minority, Hispanics. But then it's not PC to say so, is it? Critical race theorists like Cornel West would have us believe that blacks can't be involved in racist policy-making. Every time he lies, however, his afro gets bigger. But his naive, guilt-ridden white preppies and affirmative action black students at Princeton just eat it up.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: WILL CRUSADERS JESSE AND AL GO AFTER RAPPERS NOW? Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
Now that they've finished with Imus (and good riddance there), I'm sure the two reverends-without-a-church, Jesse and Al, will go after those other racist, sexist media hype types with a vengeance.


I would hope so. I would also hope the media re-visit's Sharpon's past over the Tawana Brawley affair. He told crazed lies that nearly destroyed a man's career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pagones
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stevemcgarrett



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo reminded me:

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I would hope so. I would also hope the media re-visit's Sharpon's past over the Tawana Brawley affair. He told crazed lies that nearly destroyed a man's career.


Oh, yeah. And don't hold your breath waiting for this sanctimonius ambulance chaser to pick up Jesse and head on down to Durham to apologize to the much maligned Duke lacrosse players.

The self-appointed black leadership will have no credibility until they're consistent in applying their sense of indignation. Bet on it.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: WILL CRUSADERS JESSE AND AL GO AFTER RAPPERS NOW? Reply with quote

I would hope so. I would also hope the media re-visit's Sharpon's past over the Tawana Brawley affair. He told crazed lies that nearly destroyed a man's career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pagones[/quote]

I am glad someone brought that up.
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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imus said on his show "When will Al Sharpton apologize to the Duke Lacrosse players?"

D$mm right I man!!!!!
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newton kabiddles



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: WILL CRUSADERS JESSE AND AL GO AFTER RAPPERS NOW? Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:

So who's more to blame? Imus, who makes a sleazy comment or the rapsters who rake in the buck pandering to the pants of young black men and their wannabe non-black brethren?


No one is to blame. Rappers and Imus are allowed to say what they like but the rappers are selling music and do not depend on advertisers. Imus went too far, made a bad joke and screwed himself. Imus should have stepped down and not apologized.
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