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Natalie
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: You Canadians are hilarious! |
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I mean...this ice hockey of yours. Its coming out your ears. I went to the Rocky Mountain Tavern the other night and well, that says it all!
Hockey hockey hockey everywhere I looked. Not a bad thing, just wow.
And this may be totally naive but isn't it a hard game to watch? I mean, we have outdoor hockey in NZ, but its not popular. On the big screen I could hardly see what was going on: the men are so huge, with so much protective gear, and sticks everywhere, I could barely see the little ball thing whatever you call it, and then the goals are so tiny, it seems ridiculous hehe, no offence  |
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CheeseSandwich
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Hockey is to Canada as Rugby is for Kiwis. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| hockey is to soccer what netball is to basketball and what rugby is to football |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Fun to play, boring to watch. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Hockey isn't too bad in terms of sports. I really like going and watching the minor league team in Portland. The best seats in the house are right down on the ice where you get to see them flatted each other against the sides of the rink. I'm not really into watching it on tv much though. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| CheeseSandwich wrote: |
| Hockey is to Canada as Rugby is for Kiwis. |
Yep. Canadians and their hockey. Kiwi's and their rugby. I think it's like a national badge they have to wear.
I heard my buddy say that he was with a group of guys in Geckos with more than a few beers already downed. About 4 years ago. One Kiwi in the group was vociferous about the all-blacks. Another Kiwi casually chimed in to say he wasn't really interested in rugby. Well, the other Kiwi immediately punched him!!
It seems a bit strange to me. As an Irishman I'm quite anxious that I won't live up to the stereotype many have about the Irish. But it seems Canadians and Kiwis really don't mind being all that we typecast them as. I'm generalising, of course. |
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mervsdamun

Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hockey and rugby cultures are similar are feel. One is popular in Canada and the other in Australia�s Canada. Without those sports both countries wouldn�t have much to show on world stage in terms of spectator sports.
Now that I think about it, only soccer and basketball are truly global sports. Baseball unfortunately is not quite there yet. As for my passion, it never will, I fear. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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A couple weekends ago, there was this Canadian guy sporting a hockey shirt who was talking about this hockey team on and on. We had been having a normal conversation previously, but then he switched to what was apparently the over-arching issue.
When I said I don't really give a shit about hockey, he sort of sized me up with his eyes. Almost had a conniption. He seemed genuinely angry that I didn't care. Determining he couldn't take me out, he gave a crooked smile and walked away.
Tosser. |
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mervsdamun

Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| CheeseSandwich wrote: |
| Hockey is to Canada as Rugby is for Kiwis. |
Yep. Canadians and their hockey. Kiwi's and their rugby. I think it's like a national badge they have to wear.
I heard my buddy say that he was with a group of guys in Geckos with more than a few beers already downed. About 4 years ago. One Kiwi in the group was vociferous about the all-blacks. Another Kiwi casually chimed in to say he wasn't really interested in rugby. Well, the other Kiwi immediately punched him!!
It seems a bit strange to me. As an Irishman I'm quite anxious that I won't live up to the stereotype many have about the Irish. But it seems Canadians and Kiwis really don't mind being all that we typecast them as. I'm generalising, of course. |
As sad as it is, you are right.
I actually studied for a couple of years in New Zealand and there is a real issue with standing out in that country. If you are too bright, too cheerful or do too well academically, you get chopped down. They call it the tall poppy syndrome down there; they don�t allow them to grow taller than others.
While New Zealanders make lots of noise about having great achiever esp. for a country with such a small population (it is true), those people succeeded probably because they had a really thick skin and despite the lack of support given to them by their peers.
Being punched for not liking Rugby doesn�t surprise me at all. There is a lot of stuff people there are bottling up and it comes out after a few beers.
That said, most kiwis I have met outside of NZ, while traveling, have been great and many who live in NZ are also great individuals. In many ways the country is a paradise esp. if you are into nature but it does have plenty darker aspects as well (high youth suicide rates, high levels of family violence). |
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VirginIslander
Joined: 24 May 2006 Location: Busan
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| There is a big difference between getting hit in the eye with a rugby and getting hit the eye with a puck. |
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jaganath69

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| You guys (Kiwis) obsess over sailing and netball, two sports Helen Clark made mention of when the All Blacks lost to Australia in the 2003 World Cup. If you want something boring to watch, I suggest both of those. I am no hockey fan either, hailing from Australia, but I'll sit there and watch it with North American mates as I find the physicality of the game at least a tad interesting. |
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Natalie
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| mervsdamun wrote: |
I actually studied for a couple of years in New Zealand and there is a real issue with standing out in that country. If you are too bright, too cheerful or do too well academically, you get chopped down. They call it the tall poppy syndrome down there; they don�t allow them to grow taller than others.
While New Zealanders make lots of noise about having great achiever esp. for a country with such a small population (it is true), those people succeeded probably because they had a really thick skin and despite the lack of support given to them by their peers.
Being punched for not liking Rugby doesn�t surprise me at all. There is a lot of stuff people there are bottling up and it comes out after a few beers.
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Im a kiwi. Sorry to say but you've got the 'tall poppy syndrome' all wrong. Its often misunderstood by people to mean a bitternes towards others' success and achievevments. But, its actually a resentment of snobbery and arrogance that goes with success, and even then, usually directed at people that didn't work hard, i.e family wealth, or people that just flaunt their money around and have let it go to their heads.
Sucecss on a personal level, and talent is absolutely appreciated and supported, the arrogance that often follows isn't. |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it's so cute when people say "ice hockey." |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: You Canadians are hilarious! |
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| Natalie wrote: |
| ...and then the goals are so tiny, it seems ridiculous hehe, no offence |
There are some who would like to make the goals bigger...for MORE offence. |
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mervsdamun

Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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I�m not a NZer so I will not claim that I got the definition 100%. But that is what I�ve learned during my stay in NZ.
I agree with you that arrogance is unwelcome when it�s not achieved (the examples of having cash, family connections, as you mentioned) but I believe that people who strive to succeed something, be it the sporting field or academic arena, or whatever, need a degree of arrogance. Maybe not in your face arrogance but at least some appreciation of their self-worth, being proud, assertiveness, ability to speak with authority and professionalism.
I found that often this would bring them scorn in NZ. Not from everyone obviously, but from enough individuals to make thing unpleasant.
Some kiwis I met even joked that this is why Australia outperform NZ in a lot of sports: they don�t see arrogance as necessarily a bad thing.
But yes, New Zealanders on a day-to-day basis are very humble and depending on who you are, this can be a good thing or a bad thing. |
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