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root555



Joined: 09 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Why do Canadians seem to love Korea so much??? Reply with quote

Or why do they seem to like it a lot more than most other nationalities I've spoken to???

So after speaking to various friends from different countries- we came down with this explanation. THE UNDERDOG SYNDROME. Koreans and Canadians are alike in how they loathe being compared to their immediate super-powers. Koreans hate that ple from the West immediately think of the Japanese in terms of what is 'Asian culture.' It's the most accessible. And they hate to admit that they try to emulate the Japanese- and are having a sort of identity crisis w/ their sudden growth. The Canadians hate being compared to the U.S. in the same way- in that they want to emphasis their separateness from the U.S., although many foreigners I've met have said they have trouble listing more than a couple major differences.

So maybe that's why Canadians appear more comfortable here????


I know I'll get my ass handed to me in this post...But I don't care. Thoughts anybody????
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JohnTeacher



Joined: 10 Mar 2007
Location: Ansan-Si, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Korea because I've had mostly great experiences and met the woman I'll marry soon here.
It also suits my teaching style, which many have compared to Robin Willaims...and which I couldn't get away with back home. Plus....unlike North America....either Canada or the U.S., the education sysytem here isn't so full of people doing non-stop unashamed self-promotion. The system here is more of teaching as a VOCATION---and not as a PROFESSION. That's something I really admire and respect.
That's why I love it here. It's truly unfair to read politics or anything else into things merely because you're perhaps preoccupied with it.

Nationalities are an infantile disease; they are the measles of the world.
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merkurix



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not Canadian myself, but I can understand how some might feel. When I asked Canadians what they know about U.S. History, they know our history better than many Americans do. IMHO I am shocked and impressed. Why? Because it is all taught to them in public schools. They learn it all in addition to their own history. I have experienced a few Canadians who get needlessly livid when they see how some Americans are oblivious and ignorant (albeit naively) about Canadian things, while they were forced to learn all about us all of their lives. The average American (in America) may not know who the current Canadian prime minister is; they might not even know what the capital of Canada is. Again not being Canadian myself, I try not to make any unbased presumptions and, like the OP, I will stand corrected if it's needed.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

merkurix wrote:
I am not Canadian myself, but I can understand how some might feel. When I asked Canadians what they know about U.S. History, they know our history better than many Americans do. IMHO I am shocked and impressed. Why? Because it is all taught to them in public schools. They learn it all in addition to their own history. I have experienced a few Canadians who get needlessly livid when they see how some Americans are oblivious and ignorant (albeit naively) about Canadian things, while they were forced to learn all about us all of their lives. The average American (in America) may not know who the current Canadian prime minister is; they might not even know what the capital of Canada is. Again not being Canadian myself, I try not to make any unbased presumptions and, like the OP, I will stand corrected if it's needed.


That's really well said.

I think the most obvious explanation is simply if you can't get a job in the USA, the army will take you. Canada has a very small army and is not an option. So we go teach English.

But yes, the Korea/Japan relationship is a lot like the Canada/USA relationship in several ways. (Although never claim that to a Korean...)
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ajgeddes



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
But yes, the Korea/Japan relationship is a lot like the Canada/USA relationship in several ways. (Although never claim that to a Korean...)


How is it similar?

Canada and the US have always had good relations, don't hate each other and are very similar.

Korea and Japan have never really had good relations, seem to dislike each other and are not the same.

Other than one being bigger and wealthier than the other, how is it the same?
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Newbie



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnTeacher wrote:
. The system here is more of teaching as a VOCATION---and not as a PROFESSION. That's something I really admire and respect.


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That's gold baby!

As to the OP... yes, there are a lot of Canadians here. But I've always noticed that they(we) are the ones to complain the most and be the most disgusted with some of the crap here
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swetepete



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korea-Japan relationship seems closer to Ireland-England. There's a lot of contempt and hate there. Canada-USA seems more like New Zealand-Australia, or perhaps Scotland-England. There is rivalry, sure, and often a certain dislike, but none of that written-in-fresh-blood loathing.

As to why Canucks like Korea so much, well...I'm not sure that they do, really. I know lots of Canadians who've been here for multiple contracts but they don't seem to like it more than other nationalities do. I figure there are so many of us here because of economics.
Basically we have a good opportunity to make some money here, but do we Like It more than other folks? I dunno...

I like it here well enough, but I've met plenty of Canadians who don't.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgeddes wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
But yes, the Korea/Japan relationship is a lot like the Canada/USA relationship in several ways. (Although never claim that to a Korean...)


How is it similar?

Canada and the US have always had good relations, don't hate each other and are very similar.

Korea and Japan have never really had good relations, seem to dislike each other and are not the same.

Other than one being bigger and wealthier than the other, how is it the same?


- Canadians rarely have anything good to say about Americans but we get rather excited when our singers and movie stars make it big in America. Koreans are similar.

- We tend to blame America for our problems (polution, "American style violence coming north", etc.) Koreans tend to blame Japan for a lot of their problem.

- Canadians swear up 'n' down they'd never want to live in America but they sure do love going there on holiday. Koreans sure do love going to Japan.

- We get rather hyper when America fails to heed our sovereignty (ie subs under the NW passage). Korea has their Dokdo.

- We're highly protective of our media, afraid it will be swallowed up by the USA. Korea is highly protective of its media.

- Koreans claim all kinds of crazy invention, Canadians do the same (the phone, baseball, basketball)

- Koreans get really proud about really small insignificant things (kimchi), Canadians are over proud of small insignificant things (the spelling of color).
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ajgeddes



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you from? Honestly, we weren't like this.

mindmetoo wrote:
- Canadians rarely have anything good to say about Americans but we get rather excited when our singers and movie stars make it big in America. Koreans are similar.

We never had this problem. People like some things and disliked other and had no problem admitting it.

- We tend to blame America for our problems (polution, "American style violence coming north", etc.) Koreans tend to blame Japan for a lot of their problem.

Other than pollution in southern Ontario, where else is this a problem? I think that is a southern Ontario person thing. I have heard the violence comment before, but it isn't a highly regarded opinion.

- Canadians swear up 'n' down they'd never want to live in America but they sure do love going there on holiday. Koreans sure do love going to Japan.

I had lots of friends and knew lots of people who said they wanted to go live there, and a few of them even do now.

- We get rather hyper when America fails to heed our sovereignty (ie subs under the NW passage). Korea has their Dokdo.

I don't see Canadians going nuts over this. The government tries to deal with it but the rest of the country seems like they couldn't care less.

- We're highly protective of our media, afraid it will be swallowed up by the USA. Korea is highly protective of its media.

I agree with this, but I don't think it is an anti-American thing. It doesn't limit American media, it limits all non-Canadian media.

- Koreans claim all kinds of crazy invention, Canadians do the same (the phone, baseball, basketball)

I agree here, but what country doesn't claim to invent things?

- Koreans get really proud about really small insignificant things (kimchi), Canadians are over proud of small insignificant things (the spelling of color).

Are you proud of that?


Honestly, I think you are really grasping for something here, but there isn't much to hold onto.

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Newbie



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgeddes wrote:
Where are you from? Honestly, we weren't like this.

mindmetoo wrote:
- Canadians rarely have anything good to say about Americans but we get rather excited when our singers and movie stars make it big in America. Koreans are similar.

We never had this problem. People like some things and disliked other and had no problem admitting it.

- We tend to blame America for our problems (polution, "American style violence coming north", etc.) Koreans tend to blame Japan for a lot of their problem.

Other than pollution in southern Ontario, where else is this a problem? I think that is a southern Ontario person thing. I have heard the violence comment before, but it isn't a highly regarded opinion.

- Canadians swear up 'n' down they'd never want to live in America but they sure do love going there on holiday. Koreans sure do love going to Japan.

I had lots of friends and knew lots of people who said they wanted to go live there, and a few of them even do now.

- We get rather hyper when America fails to heed our sovereignty (ie subs under the NW passage). Korea has their Dokdo.

I don't see Canadians going nuts over this. The government tries to deal with it but the rest of the country seems like they couldn't care less.

- We're highly protective of our media, afraid it will be swallowed up by the USA. Korea is highly protective of its media.

I agree with this, but I don't think it is an anti-American thing. It doesn't limit American media, it limits all non-Canadian media.

- Koreans claim all kinds of crazy invention, Canadians do the same (the phone, baseball, basketball)

I agree here, but what country doesn't claim to invent things?

- Koreans get really proud about really small insignificant things (kimchi), Canadians are over proud of small insignificant things (the spelling of color).

Are you proud of that?


Honestly, I think you are really grasping for something here, but there isn't much to hold onto.

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Indeed

Aside from the media thing, and perhaps a few inventions, mindmetoo is WAY off.

And I think he's been living on Dave's too much: "Canadians rarely have anything good to say about America"... where does that come from?
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just off the top of my head. I don't really care two ways.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as the Miss Seoul, she keeps saying GIs are high school drop outs. You have to have a high school diploma to be a soldier. Stop hating on the U.S. Army, and it's soldiers who have been defending the border for 50 years.

As a person who is a dual citizen of the U.S. and Canada, I have a different reason as to why Canadians may tolerate Korea more.
I think Canada is a multi-cultural country, encouraged to accept cultural differences more than people do in the U.S. A Canadian is more likley to have tried Kimchee in Canada than an American, I would wager. Canada had a Chinese governor general. It has a very large Chinese population in Toronto, B.C., and Montreal and there effect is larger than it is in the U.S.

Canada is a bi-lingual country. They have to accept differences and learn to live with them somewhat. So, though Korea has many problems, and Canadians on this board do complain about Korea more of them may be likely to tolerate Korea. I don't know. I haven't seen a poll, so I am going based on the OP's assumption. One of my Canadian workmates hates Korea and thinks Koreans are rude, backwards, and plain weird.

I think Americans and Canadians both would tend to praise Japan more.
An American would be more at home in Japan than in Korea. There is more bigotry directed towards Americans and more compliments are given towards Canadians though Canada doesn't have an army defending Korea. That would encourage many Americans including teachers and military personnel to not like the country.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as the Miss Seoul, she keeps saying GIs are high school drop outs. You have to have a high school diploma to be a soldier. Stop hating on the U.S. Army, and it's soldiers who have been defending the border for 50 years.

As a person who is a dual citizen of the U.S. and Canada, I have a different reason as to why Canadians may tolerate Korea more.
I think Canada is a multi-cultural country, encouraged to accept cultural differences more than people do in the U.S. A Canadian is more likley to have tried Kimchee in Canada than an American, I would wager. Canada had a Chinese governor general. It has a very large Chinese population in Toronto, B.C., and Montreal and there effect is larger than it is in the U.S.

Canada is a bi-lingual country. They have to accept differences and learn to live with them somewhat. So, though Korea has many problems, and Canadians on this board do complain about Korea more of them may be likely to tolerate Korea. I don't know. I haven't seen a poll, so I am going based on the OP's assumption. One of my Canadian workmates hates Korea and thinks Koreans are rude, backwards, and plain weird.

I think Americans and Canadians both would tend to praise Japan more.
An American would be more at home in Japan than in Korea. There is more bigotry directed towards Americans and more compliments are given towards Canadians though Canada doesn't have an army defending Korea. That would encourage many Americans including teachers and military personnel to not like the country.

I generally like Korea. There are things that I think are nuts about the country, but no country is alike, and it has more positives than negatives for me.
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W.T.Carl



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are so many Canadians in Korea? How's about this: they need the work.
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Dev



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.T.Carl wrote:
Why are so many Canadians in Korea? How's about this: they need the work.


That's right. And with 50% of Canadians attending university, we're one of the best educated countries in the world. Problem is, after graduation, there aren't enough well-paying jobs. Some grind it out at home, some try to get work in the states and others head to Korea.

805 won for $1 Canadian helps too. Very Happy
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