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Jane the Best
Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: Where can I Download Movies/TV shows? |
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I am totally over cable at the moment, can anyone suggest some good websites where I can download free movies and TV Shows?
thanks in advance |
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Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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Sophocles

Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Location: MetroSeoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: |
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I hate downloading. I just go here and often, what I want is there - and some stuff I didn't know I wanted.
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/index.do/1 |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:30 am Post subject: |
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third
be contacted by your isp for downloading pirated movies.
Anyone who suggests public trackers is not someone you should be listening to. |
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Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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skconqueror wrote: |
third
be contacted by your isp for downloading pirated movies.
Anyone who suggests public trackers is not someone you should be listening to. |
Pro tip: If you're going to criticize a response, it would behoove you to have a better alternative or shut your yap.
And yeah, I know you're going to suggest a private tracker. To somebody who clearly doesn't know the first thing about torrents. And I suppose you're going to offer up the invitation too, knowing full well she has no idea about share ratios, yes?
Well, you could have saved yourself the trouble of criticizing me to make yourself look like an ass, and just offered her an invite yourself, jackass. But no, that would have been too easy.
And finally, I have heard of exactly one person who's been contacted by their ISP, and that person downloaded what is certainly referred to as a honeypot, which, gasp, even public trackers take great care to remove. |
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Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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skconqueror wrote: |
third
be contacted by your isp for downloading pirated movies.
Anyone who suggests public trackers is not someone you should be listening to. |
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When you browse over forums and websites about file sharing, many users who consider themselves more "advanced" often openly tout their membership to X numbers of private BitTorrent trackers whilst blasting public sites like ThePirateBay. Of course, just because a tracker is private does not mean it is immune to the action taken against other BitTorrent sites.
Peter Anaman, a senior internet investigator for legal firm Covington and Burling, claims that his organization successfully "infiltrates" private BitTorrent tracker sites. Of course, he didn't name any that are currently being monitored extensively. "Many groups didn't start off as private. They became private because they felt threatened, so we were able to get in when they were open," he said, which possibly might serve as a hint to a power user about which trackers to avoid.
He indicated that his organization maintains a number of contacts which assist it in gaining access to additional private sites for information gathering. "Once you�re in, you never take action. You just listen," he told The Guardian. Of course, some trackers are really "private" and have always been and we can be sure that BT users aren't dealing with Hollywood movie-style spies, no matter how much these groups spruce up the language they give to the press. Still though, it serves as a story to send to the next annoying kid that claims he is rolling in private tracker memberships on forums that you frequent. |
Yeah, enjoy your complete and total "anonymity" on your private tracker. |
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skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thunndarr wrote: |
Pro tip: If you're going to criticize a response, it would behoove you to have a better alternative or shut your yap. |
pro tip? So you think you are a pro?
Thunndarr wrote: |
And yeah, I know you're going to suggest a private tracker. To somebody who clearly doesn't know the first thing about torrents. And I suppose you're going to offer up the invitation too, knowing full well she has no idea about share ratios, yes? |
Yes, of course private trackers, they aren't perfect, but they are a hell of a lot better than public trackers where anyone can upload. As for some that I am on, they aren't perfect, but when you only allow those from Sweden to upload it makes it ALOT safer. As for ratios, there are lots of guides to learn how to keep a good ratio, I like to encourage new torrent users to check them out.
Thunndarr wrote: |
Well, you could have saved yourself the trouble of criticizing me to make yourself look like an ass, and just offered her an invite yourself, jackass. But no, that would have been too easy. |
I have offered options on lots of different posts about torrents.
www.ilovetorrents.com
http://torrential.kicks-ass.org/ <-- one of the uploaders is from Korea so is very fast.
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And finally, I have heard of exactly one person who's been contacted by their ISP, and that person downloaded what is certainly referred to as a honeypot, which, gasp, even public trackers take great care to remove. |
Wow, since you haven't heard of any others then it must not happen In all honestly, I didn't believe that one person, until it happened to a friend of mine (real life friend here in Korea). He was contacted for downloading a pirated copy of windows. KT called him.
Things aren't 100% but one can surely protect themselves to a point, instead of being stupid. Hell, if you want to be stupid go ahead, but giving others the same advice is not cool. |
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Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, of course private trackers, they aren't perfect, but they are a hell of a lot better than public trackers where anyone can upload. |
In your opinion. If you have facts that back that up, please present them. They seem to be safer, but you don't have any stats to back that up.
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I have offered options on lots of different posts about torrents. |
OHHHH! How wonderful! I'm sure your posting history is of the utmost importance ON THIS THREAD! Fact: You did nothing but criticize my information in your first post without offering anything better. In fact, you still haven't offered anything better.
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Things aren't 100% but one can surely protect themselves to a point, instead of being stupid. Hell, if you want to be stupid go ahead, but giving others the same advice is not cool. |
Let me give you a little lesson in statistics.
First, the nature of public torrents means there are more people using them. Let's, for the sake of argument, say there are 1 million people on torrents.
Second, let us suppose that there are only 100,000 people on private torrents.
Third, let us look at your completely anecdotal "I know someone who got messaged by his ISP" and break that down logically, and why that information alone says nothing w/r/t the dangers of public vs. private torrents.
Let's say that 1% of people on public torrents get busted. That would be somewhere in the vicinity of 10,000 people who get busted. That seems like a large number.
Let us also say that 1% of people on private torrents get busted. 1% of 100,000 is only 1,000. Wow! Sure seems like private torrents are safer, doesn't it?
But, no. 1% is equal to 1%. However, you're much more likely to know somebody who got busted on public site than on a private site. And that is why people like you, who seem to have very little knowledge about how stats work, think private torrents are safer. The old "I never heard of anyone getting busted on a private tracker" doesn't really hold water when you look at the numbers. (Yes, I made those numbers up, but I think it's reasonable to assume there are far more people on public trackers than on private trackers.)
In fact, due to the larger numbers of people on publci sites, you may actually be safer. Being part of a larger crowd means less chance of being singled out.
Here's a tip, once again, free of charge: Do a little research on the subject before assuming you know so much. Fact: you automatically assumed private torrents are safer because they're invite only.
Here's another fact: those invites are commonly handed out to strangers on message boards like this, and odds are several get handed out to investigators. You've only made that guy's job easier by seeding for a longer period of time trying to keep your ratio up, plus being part of a much smaller swarm.
Longer seeding+fewer seeds=greater chance of being singled out.
At the end of the day, you assumed I knew nothing about this subject, criticized my information, actually said the OP SHOULDN'T LISTEN TO PEOPLE LIKE ME and then didn't actually ANSWER THE QUESTION.
This private v. public torrent thing is not going to be answered here, without some solid numbers, but the fact of the matter is that you didn't let that stop you from blasting my information without doing any research. An actual human being would have been sure to have factual information in hand rather than an assumption of safety based solely around the word "private." And even then, if you were sure and could prove the information was wrong, there are about a thousand different ways you could have said so without being an ass.
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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I thought Thundarr's tips were perfectly good.
He advised installing utorrent. Good tip. He gave links to the biggest public trackers out there. Lots of files and most of them are good. Where else would a torrent newb start? Most of us don't start off with private tracker memberships.
Being contacted by your ISP for downloading is still very rare. Especially in Korea. I wouldn't make a big deal out of it. |
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shifdog
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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If you use Bittorrent, you should use PeerGuardian. |
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Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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skconqueror wrote: |
third
be contacted by your isp for downloading pirated movies.
Anyone who suggests public trackers is not someone you should be listening to. |
So...I just had to look and see what you've said about torrents in the past. I found this thread to be interesting.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?p=938929&highlight=torrent#938929
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I'm still a computer novice and i've heard about these torrent sites where you can download all kinds of movies and tv shows.
But how do they work?
What's a good one to use?
Do you have to pay for them?
Thanks |
And remember kids, any who suggests public trackers is not someone you should be listening to. |
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skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:05 am Post subject: |
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You are right, in the past I have recommended public sites, THEN I was educated to the risks of it.. I did a lot of research and came to the realization that private ones are indeed better for various reasons (faster, safer etc). Also, after 2 online users and a personal friend got called by KT, it doesn't seem logical to want to use public trackers and risk the consequences.
I never said that private trackers were 100% but they ARE safer than public trackers. How can you say a site where all the uploaders are from Sweden isn't safer than one where ANYONE can upload.
As for your statistics, it hardly works with made up numbers.. especially after you chastise me for not showing proof. |
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skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Thunndarr wrote: |
Let me give you a little lesson in statistics.
I wont even comment on your statistics lesson, as you picked random numbers out of your a$$, so that hardly means anything besides your bias. |
Thunndarr wrote: |
In fact, due to the larger numbers of people on publci sites, you may actually be safer. Being part of a larger crowd means less chance of being singled out. |
What if you are in Korea and are more than likely uploading 20-50x faster than the rest of the swarm? You don't think that would signal you out?
Thunndarr wrote: |
Here's a tip, once again, free of charge: Do a little research on the subject before assuming you know so much. Fact: you automatically assumed private torrents are safer because they're invite only. |
I actually have done a lot of research, and that is the reason I use private trackers exclusively now, and use peer guardian (which I know isn't 100% safe)
Thunndarr wrote: |
Here's another fact: those invites are commonly handed out to strangers on message boards like this, and odds are several get handed out to investigators. You've only made that guy's job easier by seeding for a longer period of time trying to keep your ratio up, plus being part of a much smaller swarm. |
Well, here is another fact for you, private trackers are usually faster than public trackers. I can download a show in 2-5 minutes.. It takes me another 10ish to upload to 1-1 .. and hour for 3-1. I am off the torrent before you on a public tracker has even finished.
Longer seeding+fewer seeds=greater chance of being singled out.[/quote]
Well, here is another fact for you, private trackers are usually faster than public trackers. I can download a show in 2-5 minutes.. It takes me another 10ish to upload to 1-1 .. and hour for 3-1. I am off the torrent before you on a public tracker has even finished.
Thunndarr wrote: |
At the end of the day, you assumed I knew nothing about this subject, |
You still haven't convinced me otherwise
Thunndarr wrote: |
This private v. public torrent thing is not going to be answered here, without some solid numbers, but the fact of the matter is that you didn't let that stop you from blasting my information without doing any research. An actual human being would have been sure to have factual information in hand rather than an assumption of safety based solely around the word "private." And even then, if you were sure and could prove the information was wrong, there are about a thousand different ways you could have said so without being an ass. |
Maybe you should follow your own advice and do some research into public vs private trackers as well.  |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: |
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eamo wrote: |
I thought Thundarr's tips were perfectly good. |
As did I, and I have been busted once.
shifdog wrote: |
If you use Bittorrent, you should use PeerGuardian. |
And this is all you need to know. |
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