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Alpha-Epsilon



Joined: 24 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Watch What You Say About Americans Reply with quote

Guy deleted my post again. Says "I have a hard time distinguishing. . .individuals. . .groups." Makes me wonder.

Individuals represent groups.

The Korean shooter represents Koreans.

The Korean embassy in America, ie. Virginia, made a call to the President, apologized on CNN, etc.

Was he not Korean?

To conclude: the Korean character is at stake, and the fact that someone here wants to 'protect the group' over the invididual, is proving just this.

These are the ones I call the 'pro-Koreans.' They have a hard time distinguishing individuals verses groups. It sounds racist to them.

Yet look at the thousands of posts here about America and Bush, Iraq and the US military, the schoolgirls getting killed and the peevish statements by Koreans and those here and then tell me if I'm referring to "individual acts" or something akin to an overall judgment of the Korean character.

If not, then watch what you say about Americans and Bush on this board and start erasing some of these posts that are stereotyping and generalizing "individual acts" or people, verses Americans as a whole.

If not, read my quote at the bottom and lets just keep on keeping on.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you think of the situation, race-baiting is not cool.
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Whatever you think of the situation,

Maybe its late and I'm too tired, but after reading his post, I still don't know what he thinks of the situation! I have an idea, but I wouldn't bet money on being correct.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbyhanlon wrote:
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Whatever you think of the situation,

Maybe its late and I'm too tired, but after reading his post, I still don't know what he thinks of the situation! I have an idea, but I wouldn't bet money on being correct.


Yeah, I didn't read it closely either. It didn't look worth my time.
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dutchy pink



Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it read it.
and it's seems fair.
Although, I don't know what is being eluded to as being deleted.
So....
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Watch What You Say About Americans Reply with quote

Alpha-Epsilon wrote:
They have a hard time distinguishing individuals verses groups.


Here's his thesis. He then goes on to ignore his own advice.
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dutchy pink



Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he meant that the easy flow of labeling 'groups" goes both ways. By the Korean Govt making apologies and saying it is a 'group' thing, and then the ensuing discussion on it.... it holds the same for America. Apparently, his threads were deleted because the Mods, didn't want talk of labeling the individual as acting on behalf of a larger group, the same should be true in reverse. Don't talk bad about a group, being that it is made up of individuals. And reflects on the individuals comprising that group. If it is true in one direction it must be true in the other. If it is true for one country it must be true for the others..

i may have botched that whole argument.....
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Watch What You Say About Americans Reply with quote

Alpha-Epsilon wrote:

These are the ones I call the 'pro-Koreans.' They have a hard time distinguishing individuals verses groups. It sounds racist to them.



You need some Pro Koreans cuz god knows there's an abundance of Anti-Koreans on this board.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Individuals represent groups.

The Korean shooter represents Koreans.

The Korean embassy in America, ie. Virginia, made a call to the President, apologized on CNN, etc.

Was he not Korean?

To conclude: the Korean character is at stake, and the fact that someone here wants to 'protect the group' over the invididual, is proving just this.

These are the ones I call the 'pro-Koreans.' They have a hard time distinguishing individuals verses groups. It sounds racist to them.

Yet look at the thousands of posts here about America...


I agree with RACETRAITOR: this is race-baiting:
Quote:
The Korean shooter represents Koreans.



I think individuals only represent themselves. Without going in to the whole sociological phenomenon of being able to predict what a group believes but not being able to predicit what an individual will believe, saying that Cho's action was representative of the whole Korean ethnicity is just unacceptable.

The whole section on America is a red herring. It's like catching Little Johnny throwing a paper wad in class and him saying in his defense, "But Little Suzy...". The issue isn't what other people have got away with. The issue is that you are standing there with your hand in the cookie jar.
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