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bluj8y



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: F4 question Reply with quote

Hello!

I am planning to go to Korea to teach, using an F4 visa. Since I do not have enough time to process it (The consulate in the US says it may take 3 months), they told me to use a c3 visa (short term visitors), and then get the F4 once I arrive in Korea.

My question: is the C3 visa necessary? Why couldn't I just travel to Korea with a US passport and then get a F4??

Okay. If anyone out there understands that question, and can answer it- Thank you in advance!
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***** Please disregard the question because i WAS able to get my F-4 in the states within one business day. Apparently there was either misinformed agents or miscommunication.


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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: F4 question Reply with quote

bluj8y wrote:
Hello!

I am planning to go to Korea to teach, using an F4 visa. Since I do not have enough time to process it (The consulate in the US says it may take 3 months), they told me to use a c3 visa (short term visitors), and then get the F4 once I arrive in Korea.

My question: is the C3 visa necessary? Why couldn't I just travel to Korea with a US passport and then get a F4??

Okay. If anyone out there understands that question, and can answer it- Thank you in advance!


You can get an F-4 IF you are an ethnic Korean who was born in Korea. If not, there is the F-1.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: F4 question Reply with quote

bluj8y wrote:
Hello!

I am planning to go to Korea to teach, using an F4 visa. Since I do not have enough time to process it (The consulate in the US says it may take 3 months), they told me to use a c3 visa (short term visitors), and then get the F4 once I arrive in Korea.

My question: is the C3 visa necessary? Why couldn't I just travel to Korea with a US passport and then get a F4??

Okay. If anyone out there understands that question, and can answer it- Thank you in advance!


If you just enter on your US passport you are NOT legally allowed to work. - You did say that you were coming here to teach, didn't you?

If you enter with just your US passport and Visa waiver you will only be allowed to stay for 30 days and that is NOT extendable. You will have to leave the country at the end of your 30 days.

You cannot get a C3 visa from inside Korea. You MUST do it while you are outside the country.

If you are coming as a teacher you can either:
- Get your C3 - you CANNOT work while on a C3 and it is only for 90 days,
- wait for the F4 to be processed,
- get an E2 (teacher of foreign languages visa) [This assumes you are legally qualified] or
- be an illegal migrant working under the table. Are you of Mexican / Korean decent perchance?

Sidebar - Given the current political turmoil and media coverage in the US about the criminality of illegal workers the OP strikes me as either ignorant of current affairs or uneducated by suggesting that he would consider this option.
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bluj8y



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: re: Reply with quote

ttompatz: Thank you. That's the info I was looking for. Yes I am of Korean decent. Hmm. I guess another option would be go early with a C3 (takes 24 hrs in the US) and then wait to work while a F4/E2 is processed. It should be quicker to process while there?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Reply with quote

bluj8y wrote:
ttompatz: Thank you. That's the info I was looking for. Yes I am of Korean decent. Hmm. I guess another option would be go early with a C3 (takes 24 hrs in the US) and then wait to work while a F4/E2 is processed. It should be quicker to process while there?


Just remember that although you can get your c3 in 1 day... you are NOT allowed to work with it. It is just a longer version of the tourist stamp (visa waiver).

If you are going to work then you MUST have either your F4 or E2 before you are LEGALLY allowed to work.

IF you submit the E2 requirements/documents it will take your boss 4 days to acquire your authorization number after he has them and 24 hours to process your E2 in the states. Then you are legal to work as a teacher and can wait patiently for your F4.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Reply with quote

bluj8y wrote:
ttompatz: Thank you. That's the info I was looking for. Yes I am of Korean decent. Hmm. I guess another option would be go early with a C3 (takes 24 hrs in the US) and then wait to work while a F4/E2 is processed. It should be quicker to process while there?


The F-4 only takes a week to process, so don't bother getting a tourist visa and paying the dough. If you have a U.S. passport, you can stay in Korea for a month visa-free.
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zealotnyc



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have previously attempted to get an F-4 visa since I was born here and my parents are from Korea, but apparently my father never cancelled his Korean citizenship so I was denied. Is there a way he can do this online or at a consulate from here(the U.S.)? Or does he have to go to Korea and do this?
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bluj8y



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. What state are you from?? I think you can do it in the states
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zealotnyc



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

currently living in NY
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zealotnyc wrote:
I have previously attempted to get an F-4 visa since I was born here and my parents are from Korea, but apparently my father never cancelled his Korean citizenship so I was denied. Is there a way he can do this online or at a consulate from here(the U.S.)? Or does he have to go to Korea and do this?


He can go to the Korean consulate or Embassy nearest you and renounce his citizenship.
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bluj8y



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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.koreanconsulate.org/english/About_us/index.asp

I think you need the Public office on Park ave
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zealotnyc



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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info guys, hit another roadbump though.
I just talked to the consulate and said that i want an F-4.

I explained that i'm a 24 year old Korean-American(born in America) whose parents are/were citizens of Korea.

I have all the paperwork except for proof of my dad's ex-citizenship which he is going to go do at the consulate.

However, they told me I still won't be able to get it and gave me some reason about my age and Korea tightening up on how many visa's they give out. Has anyone else heard about this? Even on the NY consulate website, the same requirements are still up, it doesn't mention any new rules or anything, what gives? The lady supposedly says there was a rule change this past December, but then how the heck is anybody supposed to get an F-4 then? They also said that even if they did give me an F-4, that it would be rejected once I got to Korea and i'd have to come back to the U.S..
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have the F-4 but I first got it back in 1999, when it was first passed. When I renewed it this year, I was told by my immigration officer that it's gotten much harder to get one.

Dude, you better watch out going to Korea. If your name is still on your family's hojeok (family register), you can STILL be drafted into the South Korean army even if you were born in the United States and have NEVER held South Korean citizenship.

A famous case occurred back in 2004 when a Seattle gyopo had just that happen to him.

If I were you, I'd first see if your name is on your family's hojeok, and if it is, stay in Korea no more than a year on another type of visa.
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zealotnyc



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh jeez...i know several other guys around my age(24) that have been in korea for several months too. hopefully all that publicity will make it less likely to occur. when you say you can still be drafted, do you mean on an F-4? or regardless of visa as long as my name is on the family register?
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zealotnyc wrote:
oh jeez...i know several other guys around my age(24) that have been in korea for several months too. hopefully all that publicity will make it less likely to occur. when you say you can still be drafted, do you mean on an F-4? or regardless of visa as long as my name is on the family register?


Regardless of your visa situation, if you are an ethnic Korean man under age 35, you CAN be drafted. I know of several gyopos who left Korea sooner than expected to avoid being drafted, and some were BORN outside of Korea.

Just make sure you renounced your South Korean citizenship (if you had one) and if your name is on your family registry. Then again, going to the army could do wonders for your Korean if you suck at it.
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