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hossenfeffer

Joined: 07 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: Seoraksan National Park, any tips? |
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I have a two week vacation coming up and I'm interested in hiking in Seoraksan National Park. I live in Seoul and was wondering if anyone here has been to Seoraksan? If so, did you go by bus or by train? Where did you take the bus or train from? Did the bus or train drop you off close to the park? If not, is there a bus that takes you to a place that is relatively close to where the hiking is? Were there any reasonably priced hotels/motels to be found? How about food?
I'd really appreciate any tips. This is my first trip outside of Seoul and don't want to find myself rubbing two sticks together to make a fire and then fishing for my dinner.
Thank you,
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azzwell
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: where the girls from Super Junior cannot find me
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: soraksan |
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i live in sokcho so could answer some of your questions. There is no train station here so you will have to take the bus. Leave from the Dong Seoul terminal, it is cheaper and quicker than Gangnam.
The 7 or 7-1 bus will take you all the way to soraksan. 900 won
There are many motels and Yeogwans available, especially now since it is not the tourist season. You can easily find a room so no need for a reservation.
Be aware though, I was going to hike the big mountain, Dae-chun-bong, last weekend and the route was closed due to heavy snow. I do not know when the good hikes will reopen. I have heard late April.
Barring that, this is a pretty area and there are lots of things to do. |
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hossenfeffer

Joined: 07 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the information azzwell. I always appreciate the advice of a "local". Someone told me that many trails are closed there to help prevent forest fires. Is that true?
How is the hiking this time of year in Sorak? Any strong recommendations? I wouldn't call myself an expert hiker, but I've probably spent about four months of my life hiking in Switzerland. (not trying to brag...just trying to let you know that I'm not going to shy away from a little altitude).
Thanks again,
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Location: Not far from the deep end.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:27 am Post subject: |
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hossenfeffer wrote: |
Thanks for the information azzwell. I always appreciate the advice of a "local". Someone told me that many trails are closed there to help prevent forest fires. Is that true?
How is the hiking this time of year in Sorak? Any strong recommendations? I wouldn't call myself an expert hiker, but I've probably spent about four months of my life hiking in Switzerland. (not trying to brag...just trying to let you know that I'm not going to shy away from a little altitude).
Thanks again,
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Wear good, comfortable rock climber shoes and give yourself the ENTIRE day. It is best to lodge there the night before and wake up very early in the morning at around 4 AM if you want to check out the highest DaeChongBong summit. It is going to be a grueling hike, but it will be well worth it.
It is possible that there are some trails closed, but I doubt that this will hamper any serious hiking efforts to the summit.
It will be very crowded, but most people thin out when you start seeing a bit of snow toward the summit. This time of year is good to go hiking, but May is probably best when most of the snow has thawed. I went there in the middle of December and I almost died a few times I think. There are some steep grade rock climbs and if they are covered in frost, it creates a precarious situation. But by now it should be okay. |
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hossenfeffer

Joined: 07 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks merkurix. How far do you think I'll have to climb in snow to reach the summit? You also mention "grueling". Do you mean in terms of distance or difficulty? Will I need cramp-ons or any special gear? Would you recommend finding a walking stick?
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Location: Not far from the deep end.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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hossenfeffer wrote: |
Thanks merkurix. How far do you think I'll have to climb in snow to reach the summit? You also mention "grueling". Do you mean in terms of distance or difficulty? Will I need cramp-ons or any special gear? Would you recommend finding a walking stick?
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I think most of the snow is thawed so if you have casual strap-on crampons I would say keep them in your bag just in case. To reach the summit, if you begin your hike at 4AM, figure on getting there at around 3 or 4 PM. The descent will take you well into the evening by the time you get to the bottom. I don't think a walking stick is necessary, but if you have a telescoping one that fits in your bag, it won't hurt to have it. Good luck.  |
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tfunk

Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Bring bananas for when you stop for a long period and have a bit of one near sleep time. They'll help stop your muscles seizing up (the potassium helps). |
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azzwell
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: where the girls from Super Junior cannot find me
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:15 am Post subject: soraksan |
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I think most of the snow is thawed so if you have casual strap-on crampons I would say keep them in your bag just in case. To reach the summit, if you begin your hike at 4AM, figure on getting there at around 3 or 4 PM. The descent will take you well into the evening by the time you get to the bottom. I don't think a walking stick is necessary, but if you have a telescoping one that fits in your bag, it won't hurt to have it. Good luck. Smile
Are you on crack? Have you ever even climbed in Sorak? The main summit, Dae-chun-bong, is a ten hour MAX hike, decent and ascent. Start at 4am? What! The park doesnt even open until 700am, you cannot even get in!
Greuling? The only part of the climb that is tough is the last 300 meters. It is kind of steep but nothing that you will need crampons or an ice ax for, I have seen sixty year old ajumas make this hike. If you start at 4 as you suggest you, 1. Will be waiting at the park entrance for 3 hours, 2. Be finished hiking by 3 at the latest.
I have climbed Dae-chun-bong, the third highest peak in South Korea three times and think I may have a slight idea about what it takes.[color=red][/color] |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Depends on the athletic ability of the OP.
My suggestion is to go and hike up to the top of Ulsan Bawi. If you are spending a couple days at Sorak Park, then the first day go to the top of Ulsan Bawi and then hit up the Cable car to the other peak. If you have energy then go visit the waterfalls.
If the OP climbed to the top of Ulsan Bawi without any difficulty then hiking up the higher peak shouldn't be a problem. |
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hossenfeffer

Joined: 07 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Thanks to everyone who has posted. I'm really looking forward to hiking and soaking in the tranquility. I will make sure to bring bananas.
Any recommendations on where to eat and stay while I'm there.
Hoss |
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tfunk

Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: |
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You can stay near the peak if you want to sleep up there. I don't know if the shelters are open on weekdays though.
I recommend not staying in DongJin resortel which is where I live. The bill is too high. There are plenty of places you can just poke your head in and check out. Near the bus terminal where you originally get off or up closer towards the mountain (I think there's a youth hostel at the base of the mountain that might be super cheap).
It's not that long/far to Sokcho town anyway. Give me a buzz if you're really stuck. |
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makemischief

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: Traveling
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:36 am Post subject: Re: soraksan |
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azzwell wrote: |
Are you on crack? Have you ever even climbed in Sorak? |
From your experience Azzwell... how long does it take to climb Seoraksan on crack? Just curious.
I'm hoping to head to Seorak myself in the next few weeks and if crack makes the hike more enjoyable I'll certainly need to factor that into my packing. |
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Location: Not far from the deep end.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: Re: soraksan |
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azzwell wrote: |
I think most of the snow is thawed so if you have casual strap-on crampons I would say keep them in your bag just in case. To reach the summit, if you begin your hike at 4AM, figure on getting there at around 3 or 4 PM. The descent will take you well into the evening by the time you get to the bottom. I don't think a walking stick is necessary, but if you have a telescoping one that fits in your bag, it won't hurt to have it. Good luck. Smile
Are you on crack? Have you ever even climbed in Sorak? The main summit, Dae-chun-bong, is a ten hour MAX hike, decent and ascent. Start at 4am? What! The park doesnt even open until 700am, you cannot even get in!
Greuling? The only part of the climb that is tough is the last 300 meters. It is kind of steep but nothing that you will need crampons or an ice ax for, I have seen sixty year old ajumas make this hike. If you start at 4 as you suggest you, 1. Will be waiting at the park entrance for 3 hours, 2. Be finished hiking by 3 at the latest.
I have climbed Dae-chun-bong, the third highest peak in South Korea three times and think I may have a slight idea about what it takes.[color=red][/color] |
You're funny. I admit, I climbed Mt. Seorak only once. Actually because I shared some of my crack with the park ranger ajeossi, he let us all in at 2 AM (and every other person who was in the queue as well)!! I got in, why didn't you? Did you just go with what was written on the sign? Or did you actually try going in? It was not fenced off, and the park ranger ajeossi was a negotiable character. It's not hard to talk him into letting you go a bit early (carry a flashlight). Yes, I have climbed Mt. Seorak and I must say it was challenging. It took me all day, because I had a lot of friends hiking with me. We took our time to rest a lot and enjoy some breath taking waterfalls on our descent (including the summit for a couple of hours). It is possible to climb it in 10 hours, assuming you are a machine, don't take any time to enjoy some spectacular views, and you have no friends to distract you (which in your case, having no friends could have been a very distinct possibility). But perhaps the crack just slowed us down a bit. Oh, and also, I climbed at the beginning of the winter season. The climb had to be a bit cautious. I didn't need a pickax, but I did definitely need a pair of simple crampons. There were some ice-covered vertical climbs in early December. Yes there were a lot of ajummas who made the climb, but they too came prepared with crampons. Are you trying to say that ajummas are weak? They are not; they are a tough bunch. That's why they can climb moutains and clothesline you in the subway if needed too. Better to take stuff and not need it than to need stuff and not have it.
Oh and azzwell: if you start at 7 and finish at 3, that is not 10 hours, now is it? Or if you start at 4 and wait in the parking lot for 3 hours as you said, and then finish at 3 PM, isn't that 11 hours? Umm, your math is a tad bit off there. And . . .
You don't consider 10 hours to be an entire day? If I start at 7 and finish at 5, I think I would call that a whole invested day in just climbing. That is what I reccomended to the OP (trust me, you will need more time). And also:
For azzwell: Try the climb in late fall/early winter. I'm sure you haven't braved it in the winter time. Take no crampons, just your normal shoes and climb on the ice and snow.. Then come back to this thread and tell us about it. Maybe you will finish at 1:30 PM and boast about it. I hope you don't break you neck.
The lesson to be learned: pack crack.
OP, good luck on your adventures in Seoraksan and stay safe. |
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azzwell
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: where the girls from Super Junior cannot find me
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: actually |
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I climbed it in August, Febuary, and March. But thanks, for all your so-called expert advice.
The way you were talking about it I was sure that you were a really expert about the mountian, just like you are a real expert on all your other posts |
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Location: Not far from the deep end.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: actually |
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azzwell wrote: |
I climbed it in August, Febuary, and March. But thanks, for all your so-called expert advice.
The way you were talking about it I was sure that you were a really expert about the mountian, just like you are a real expert on all your other posts |
With all due respect, the advice was obviously not for you, so take your "thanks" and shove it. Never did say I was an expert, now did I? All I did was to simply share my own Seorak experience with the OP, you are free to believe me or not if you like, IDGAF. If what I said gives you the impression that I am expert, then you have a real problem making interpretations of people. You also can't read well if that's what you read. I wrote in my first line that I have been there once. I'm not trying to upstage you by any means, get a grip there guy. If you want the spotlight, you can have it by all means, but I don't see you giving any advice. The only thing I see you doing is attacking me ad hominem because you have more "climbing experience" at the mountain. Woohoo. The OP wanted climbing advice from people who had been there and the only thing YOU have done was blow your trumpet and attack me. Which essentially is proving what a tit you are. I strongly suggest then "mr.-i-climbed-mt-seorak-three-times-yaay" to be constructive and offer up some practical advice then; otherwise I will very kindly and politely ask you to play nice here. |
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