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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:31 am Post subject: Secret "ILLEGAL" 3 EGOS Can-US-exico Merger |
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Secret Agreement To Almalgamate US, Canada And Mexico
By Bob Chapman
9-19-5
When Presidents Bush and Fox and Martin had their secret meeting in Crawford, TX in March 2005 in secret, they laid out the amalgamation of Canada, US and Mexico that will be followed by the absorption of the CAFTA countries forming a single state of North America. The agreement was signed without the consent of the government and the peoples of these three countries. In fact, 99% of them do not know such a secret agreement exists.
Among elitists these regulations, not exposed to Congress or the people, are called a tri-national merger or NAFTA Plus or the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.
Your national media did not tell you about this did they? Congresses are not rubber stamping global, expansionist goals so the illuminists are using regulations and executive decrees and orders to circumvent elected representatives and the people. The legwork is being done by NGOs (non-Governmental Organizations) via funding from foundations and think tanks controlled and used as conduits for elitists goals.
In the process the US will be the big winner with cheap labor, control of commodities and monopolies. We can promise you the expansion of globalization has nothing to do with security. The US is not only after Canada's oil, gas and minerals, but also its water. The transnational corporations existing in Canada and Mexico would have unrestricted access to the US market. The big winners are international conglomerates and a government bent on destroying our sovereignty and safety. In the final analysis the joining will not be equal.
Needless to say our media tells us nothing negative about NAFTA. We only hear the positive propaganda. The US was inundated by illegal aliens and our balance of trade deficit with Mexico and Canada has skyrocketed. The biggest losers are the Mexicans, particularly the poor, uneducated and farmers. They face greater unemployment and poverty and inequality. The rich in Mexico got richer.
Few jobs in 11 years have been created in Mexico. You either become an illegal alien, join the black economy or become a criminal. It is amazing how little crime there is in Mexico considering the circumstances. In four years Vincente Fox has not created one new job. He has been a spectacular loser for the people and that is why socialist Mr. Lopez Obrador, former Mayor of Mexico City, will be the next president. That is if US elitists do not assassinate him like they did Donaldo.
The biggest goal of NAFTA Plus is not only regional government and eventually world government, but also to take America down to the level of a second world nation. Through amalgamation and a standard of living 50% or more less, Americans will accept anything.
9/11 and the security measures put in place, which included trade, took on crisis proportions especially with Canada and that is when one of the neocon think tanks came up with the idea of taking steps to erase the border by harmonizing its policies, laws, norms, etc. and most important intelligence and security measures to American standards.
Canada had to show it was secure to eliminate the border. The deal was that with open borders the US would have unrestricted access to Canada's natural resources. This plan is now well advanced. Underway already are harmonization of military and homeland security and global security. Effectively that makes Canada's enforcement subservient to US elitist interests.
In the case of Mexico, Fox proposed letting as many Mexicans as possible into the US so they can stay there and work and sent $16.8 billion annually home to Mexico. Part of the deal was for Mexico to militarize its southern border to keep out illegal aliens, most of who were on their way to the US. We are told part of the deal was to privatize Pemex, the country's nationalized oil company and the CFE, the Federal Electricity Commission.
Canada for years has allowed the US immigration to operate directly on its territory to check passengers headed into the US. Now agents will gain jurisdiction and authority to operate within Mexico. Such a program has begun from Cancun and Mexico City to the US. If an undesirable is spotted they are not allowed to enter the US. Mexican lawyers call this a legal non-competence of US agents that violates Mexican jurisdiction and sovereignty. It constitutes a crime subject to penal action under Mexican law. Obviously that does not bother Mr. Fox and PAN.
US elitists have every intention of sucking Mexico's oil reserves dry in 12 years. They want to access the abundant natural gas and silver and also a vast fresh water reserve in the State of Chiapas.
CAFTA and NAFTA Plus are additional ways of moving toward FTAA - Free Trade Area of the Americas. Looting of Canada and Mexico is very important to US elitists; because they say otherwise the US cannot survive. This will be accomplished with massive cash payoffs to Mexico and Canada, which the Fed will print up on demand. Previously, enormous amounts of cash were sent to Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Greece, when they joined the EU. The same will happen in Mexico.
FTAA and the creation of one region in the Americas is being ramroded by the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, the Mexican Council of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations in the US. Their plan is to immediately create a unified North American Border Action Plan. Create institutions necessary to sustain a North American Community. Adopt a "Common" external tariff. Stimulate growth in Mexico. Develop a North American energy and natural resource security strategy and finally deepen educational ties.
This past June the three nationals signed 300 regulations that contain the standardization of policies for monitoring travelers and goods moving from third countries, including systems for visa clearance, categorization of high-risk travelers and trustworthy travelers, and the future implementation of a "smart" card for those wanting to transit swiftly through common borders of the region.
The citizens of all three countries are being sold down the river. The US and Mexico already have been injured so that elitist interest could get ever richer. Listen to this. Only 10% of the Mexican populace has benefited from NAFTA. The 10% makes over $1,000 a month. That indicates the real winners are from within the top 2% of the population. That is two million people out of 102 million were able to profit in a big way from NAFTA.
Citizens of all three countries are being deceived. What is next is a customs union and labor that can travel from one country to another. Next is the new single currency for the Americas, the "AMERO" This will destroy the sovereignty of all three countries. It effectively will give the elitist bankers at the Federal Reserve control over all the wealth of the Americas.
http://news.goldseek.com/InternationalForecaster/1126018849.php
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RachaelRoo

Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Ummmm....proof? |
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Nowhere Man

Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:46 am Post subject: ... |
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Were they playing Risk?
+5 armies per turn |
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:57 am Post subject: |
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There is definitely something to be said for igotthisconspiracytheory's threads. They are entertaining, if nothing else. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:04 am Post subject: |
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WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS POSITION IF WE DIDN'T LET THE DIRTY AMERICANS CANCEL THE AVRO ARROW! WE'D BE MORE POWERFUL THAN CHINA!
Have the Knights Templar and Umberto Eco signed off on this plan?
While I can see the USA friendly to a merger with Canada, how would a North American nation state absorb 100 million dirt poor Mexicans? I mean look what happened to the West German economy (the third largest economy in the '90s) when it absorbed a paltry 15 million East Germans. And the East Germans weren't even as bad off as the Mexicans. East Germany was the best performing Iron curtain economy (which doesn't actually say a lot).
Hell, take Canadian water if that also means I get unrestricted access to working in the Bay area or Manhattan. (I guess I can technically with a TN visa but it's a pain to have to renew every year.)
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Selling Canada to the USA
Canadians are a pretty easy going people but there are three ways you can hork off any Canadian.
1. Compare our money to monopoly money
2. Claim we all live in igloos
3. Claim Canada will one day be the 51st state.
First, our money does not look like monopoly money. It looks more like large postage stamps. Second, we don't live in igloos. We all live in brick ranch style homes huddled along the American border. Third, Canada will never, ever, ever become the 51st state. It's just not going to happen. Ever. It's not that Canada could resist an American military invasion. Heck, the West Edmonton Mall employs more security guards than Canada has soldiers. It's just that it's ludicrous to claim Canada, the world's second largest country by area, can be folded into the US as one single state. You think Texans are going to support the creation of a single contiguous state larger than itself! Not on your life buddy! Hell, you could divide Canada into the 51st, 52nd, and 53rd states and we'd still be too damn big for Americans used to calling lil dinky landmasses like Delaware a state.
So deal with it. Canada ain't ever going to be your 51st state. Assuming Canada would have to be divided into states smaller than Texas (a state with an area of two hundred and sixty seven thousand square miles), you would divide Canada's six million square miles into twenty three slightly smaller-than-Texas-sized states.
Now if you really want Canada to be part of your more perfect union, there is one way. It's long been suggested that Canada should just up and sell itself to the USA. The suggested figure has always been thirty trillion dollars. In other words, the USA can have Canada lock, stock, and Drumheller, Alberta if it gives each citizen one million dollars.
What would it gain? Well, besides a nation of curiously attractive people, America would get added tax revenues. Canada and all its provinces generate roughly 200 billion dollars a year in taxes. America's thirty trillion dollar investment would reach the break even point one hundred and fifty years later.
There are some psychological problems with laying out all that money. First, the USA has yearly tax revenues of 1.8 trillion dollars. When you're talking trillions, an extra two hundred billion sounds like a rounding error. But really, Canada is a great bargain compared to the other G7 powers. I mean what would it cost to buy the UK and acquire all those Crown Jewels and Paul McCartney song rights? What would it cost to buy France, assuming you'd want France, and cough up money for all the paintings in the Louvre? As you can see, Canada is a simple nation with simple needs. Just give us each a huge stinking pile of American dollars. We'll even throw in our collection of Emily Carr paintings and the rights to Alanis Morrisette's "Ironic" for free.
There are other ways to make that one time thirty trillion dollar charge look like a sound investment. For example, Canada has a work force of sixteen million people. It would cost you one hundred and sixty million dollars to head hunt a workforce that size. Besides people, America is getting a heck of a lot of land. America is getting six million square miles, a lot of it is undeveloped beach front property too. That's five million dollars a square mile or about a thousand bucks a square foot. My apartment is six hundred square feet and I pay eight hundred and fifty dollars a month in rent. That works out to about a dollar forty a square foot per month. Amortized over that one hundred and fifty year period, I'd shell out two thousand five hundred dollars per square foot. America is getting Canada for a thousand dollars a square foot. That's like a two hundred and fifty percent savings!
Can America afford NOT to buy Canada? The numbers don't lie. |
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RachaelRoo

Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:53 am Post subject: |
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MMT, Americans didn't cancel the arrow - the Canadian conservatives did. Were you serious there or joking?
IGTG, I was pretty hard on Joo in a previous thread for not having enough evidence to substantiate something and now you've made me feel like I was way too harsh on him.
This is by far the most unsubtantiate nonsense I've read on this forum yet.
Some lunatic just makes this up and you take it as fact. Are you serious or not? |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:11 am Post subject: |
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I think its total conspiracy joke. If that did happen it would be my solemn duty to kill as many Americans as possible. Canada does make an awsome weapons grade producing nuclear reactors. |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:56 am Post subject: |
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I love how he takes the time to bold some parts and underline others.
NGOs!!!
Cancun!!!
Oh My God!
You go girl! |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Why would it be so bad?? canada needs immigrants, and mexicans would provide that as well as a lot of cheap labor. In addition, it would make mexico manageable. At the moment it is not only an up and coming al-queda base and muslim recruitment centre, but also is the conduit for the huge transit of cocaine/crack into the US. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:16 am Post subject: |
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>What is next is a customs union and labor that can travel from one country to another.
This is a problem? I wouldn't need 600 pages of forms to take a better job in Oregon? Bring it on, brother!
<Next is the new single currency for the Americas, the "AMERO" This will destroy the sovereignty of all three countries.
Just as the Euro has obliterated the sovereignty of European countries?
I can hear my history prof shouting, "Evidence!"
Here's my proposed flag for the new country of Camerixa.
Ken:> |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Que bandera linda, me gusta!
(embromando) |
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RachaelRoo

Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:28 am Post subject: |
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rapier wrote: |
Why would it be so bad?? canada needs immigrants, and mexicans would provide that as well as a lot of cheap labor. In addition, it would make mexico manageable. At the moment it is not only an up and coming al-queda base and muslim recruitment centre, but also is the conduit for the huge transit of cocaine/crack into the US. |
It's not a matter of good or bad - the issue is that this claim is entirely fictional. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:25 am Post subject: |
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RachaelRoo wrote: |
It's not a matter of good or bad - the issue is that this claim is entirely fictional. |
I predict you're going to be doing a lot of back tracking quite shortly. If you don't believe what i've posted, look into yourself. Can you prove the claim of secret "agreements" is false?
Why any of this should be all that shocking or seemingly disbelievable to anyone frankly i have no idea. Clearly you have little idea of what really goes on behind close doors.
From over TWO years ago
May 15, 2003
Here We Go Again
NAFTA Plus or Minus?
By LAURA CARLSEN
In his first public appearance after six weeks of convalescence, Mexico's President Vicente Fox grandiosely announced that the current phase of NAFTA is over, and that Mexico, the U.S., and Canada will embark in June on negotiations toward a "new phase of NAFTA." What's been dubbed as the "NAFTA Plus" would include, according to Fox, "more development, more trade, and more integration."
http://www.counterpunch.org/carlsen05152003.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=nafta+plus
Any guesses why they might want to keep NAFTA "plus" secret? Hmmmmmm ... must be why we "vote" these upstanding characters into office eh?
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/955 |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:23 am Post subject: |
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NAFTA was always the first step towards a trade relationship much like the EEC.
Closer economic relationships naturally lead to closer political relationships- the EEC is now the EU.
For North America the writing has clearly been on the wall since 1988. The only thing fictional here are the wingnuts who make this out to be a conspiracy theory (and the bigger wingnuts with absolutely no natural BS detectors whatsoever who believe every consipracy theory they read on the web and then annoyingly post them here). |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Can you prove the claim of secret "agreements" is false?
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I have one for you.
Prove that Tinkerbell's invisible cousin doesn't live in my closet. |
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