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English teachers' grammar errors
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:30 am    Post subject: English teachers' grammar errors Reply with quote

I am starting this thread in order to draw attention to errors made by we who call ourselves English teachers on Dave's in an attempt to help us educate each other.

Post here the grammatical errors you find on Dave's, primarily the more bothersome ones. We won't especially deal here with spelling errors that are a result of typos, only the more blatant ones.

This is not primarily an attempt to embarass people although that may happen a bit. If so, please be light-hearted about it, use it as a learning experience, and don't flame me or the poster. Better yet, post mine if you can find any. I am gambling that you won't and will be embarassed if you do but I am always willing to learn.

I'll start things off with something I have frequently seen on this board: resign vs. re-sign. What might seem a small distinction actually has a major difference in meaning; indeed, they are essentially opposites.
resign means to relinquish a position, while
re-sign means to renew or extend a contract.

Here's another from the thread "Are you cheerful, positive, talkative, outgoing...?:"
I mean...if he was an art teacher would people still pester the OP?
As an imaginary situation in the present, this requires subjunctive.
Correct: ...if he were an art teacher...

From the same thread:
Error: It is here too.
Correct: It is here, too.

Others?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
errors made by we


Shouldn't this be 'us'?

And if it is 'we' it is pretentious and sounds artificial--not the way people talk.


While everyone makes mistakes in grammar from time to time, is it really worthwhile to spend time correcting others' mistakes online? Wouldn't it really be more fruitful offering interesting instructional activities so people can deliver a good lesson tomorrow to the kiddies? Anything else seems anal.


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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the same thread still:
Error: Your failure to understand that shows either your lack of care or education.
Correct: Your failure to understand that shows your lack of either care or education.

and

Error: Another teacher was a bit loopy, alcoholic and anal to the point of OCD but he was always incredibly energetic and enthusiastic in class so people actually payed attention and tended to learn a lot.
Correct: Another teacher was a bit loopy, alcoholic, and anal to the point of OCD but he was always incredibly energetic and enthusiastic in class so people actually paid attention and tended to learn a lot.

Remember, in a list of three or more things, a comma is required between the penultimate item and "and" or "or."
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: English teachers' grammar errors Reply with quote

embarrass
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I couldn't let this one go by:
my hagwon actually has "Friends" in it's name
Of course, "it's" is a contraction meaning "it is." The possessive form "its" takes no apostrophe.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Becasper wrote:

"Remember, in a list of three or more things, a comma is required between the penultimate item and "and" or "or."



It seems to me, in the deep foggy remnants of my memory of my university days, that I remember that this particular comma you mention was a matter of style. One professor insisted it was redundant and docked five points for a comma before "and."
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Quote:
errors made by we


Shouldn't this be 'us'?

I believe this is correct since "we call ourselves..."

Quote:
And if it is 'we' it is pretentious and sounds artificial--not the way people talk.


I hear people speak correctly (as well as incorrectly) all the time.

Quote:
While everyone makes mistakes in grammar from time to time, is it really worthwhile to spend time correcting others' mistakes online? Wouldn't it really be more fruitful offering interesting instructional activities so people can deliver a good lesson tomorrow to the kiddies? Anything else seems anal.

Well, I really wanted to point out the more glaring ones. Honestly, I have often been aghast at some of the stuff I have seen here.

While you may have a point regarding the lessons, aren't there many other places to get that stuff?
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: English teachers' grammar errors Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
embarrass

You are absolutely correct, thank you.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Becasper wrote:

"Remember, in a list of three or more things, a comma is required between the penultimate item and "and" or "or."

It seems to me, in the deep foggy remnants of my memory of my university days, that I remember that this particular comma you mention was a matter of style. One professor insisted it was redundant and docked five points for a comma before "and."


I am guessing you are British. It should be mentioned that there are some grammar differences between British and American English. I am American so my comments will reflect that and while I know some of the differences, I'd like them to be pointed out by Brits.
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I see when I read this thread is someone trying to prove that he or she is smarter than everyone else on this board. Get a life.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Mac wrote:
All I see when I read this thread is someone trying to prove that he or she is smarter than everyone else on this board. Get a life.

If you are not interested in bettering yourself, don't participate. If you have nothing better to do than post such comments, it's you who needs the life.

On "Another Canadian busted...," someone wrote:
"The comical thing is you guys are rather forcing me into "taking up arms" with Americans simply though your douchbaginess."
Appropriately, the neologism should be "douchebagginess."
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Woland



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's all get our long, shallow-bowled, metal spoons and drain the sea. That should be fun.

Ya-ta is right; time would be better spent on ideas for interesting, engaging lessons.

(NB: And this from the resident grammar freak; don't cut into my territory, bub. Evil or Very Mad ) Very Happy
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the spelling and grammar on these boards is pretty shocking, but as far as grammar howlers go, I don't think the subjunctive, the Oxford comma or the single / double letter dilemma (especially when coinging a new usage) are really worthy of a lot of comment.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the MS text book at my school:

The total number of camels which were given to the sons was seventeen.

A teacher asked why it could not also be:

The total number of camels which was given to the sons was seventeen.

Also am I using the colon correctly?


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