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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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 Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: Which question is more correct? |
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My students ask me questions like "Do you know Michael Jackson?" and I always answer "No, I don't." Then I think about it and realize they mean "Have you heard of Michael Jackson?" or perhaps I'm wrong.
What's your opinion? |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Errr...it's not really a question of which is correct, they are two different questions that elicit two different types of information...  However, in the context of conversation they can sometimes, and often are, used interchangeably. |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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The question probably depends on whether you bear a striking resemblance to member of Jackson 5? 
If you do, then 'do you know' is probably correct.
It is not good English, but many times I hear people say 'do you know' and what they they imply is "do you know of". The of is ommitted.
Dunno if this is correct, hopefully a more knowledgable person can inform! |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| spliff wrote: |
| Errr...it's not really a question of which is correct, they are two different questions that elicit two different types of information... However, in the context of conversation they can sometimes, and often are, used interchangeably. |
Good point...
I suppose the question is in the context of knowing someone in general....not personally.
The reason I'm wondering is a conversation I had with a student. I'll try to write it word for word so it can be judged more clearly...
Student: Teacher, do you know Daniel Henney?
Me: No, I don't.
The student talks to other students in Korean and then says to me
Student: Teacher, you see taster's choice commercial?
Me: Yes, I've seen it before. (pause pause pause) Oh! Him! I've heard of him.
Student: I see him in Gyongijeon.....
So my confusion is in whether she's asking if I personally know this guy or if I had heard of him because he's famous.
To me, those are two different things. Another example is if my friend asked me about a mutual contact.
Friend: Do you know David?
Me: No, I've heard of him though.
Maybe it's just me, or an American English thing or something much simpler. Any input would be helpful.... |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Alyallen wrote: |
So my confusion is in whether she's asking if I personally know this guy or if I had heard of him because he's famous. |
In Uzbekland, I was inevitably always asked "Do you know Michael Jackson?" or "Do you know Arnold Schwarzeneggar?" I usually answered, "I know who he is." But I never quite figured out if they thought I personally knew everybody in America or that I hadn't heard of two of the most internationally popular entertainers. Or maybe that's their only cultural point of connection and they're just trying to be friendly. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Alyallen wrote: |
So my confusion is in whether she's asking if I personally know this guy or if I had heard of him because he's famous. |
In Uzbekland, I was inevitably always asked "Do you know Michael Jackson?" or "Do you know Arnold Schwarzeneggar?" I usually answered, "I know who he is." But I never quite figured out if they thought I personally knew everybody in America or that I hadn't heard of two of the most internationally popular entertainers. Or maybe that's their only cultural point of connection and they're just trying to be friendly. |
I guess. It's just sort of annoying because I always answer no and then they explain who the person is...a person that I'm aware of and heard of but don't personally know...
So it makes me wonder if I should correct students who say this or not because I can't quite figure out the intent behind the question... |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for bringing up this point! I'm going to incorporate it into my lessons.
Also, now I know what to say when Christians ask "Do you know Jesus?"!!  |
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