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pkang0202
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 Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: Teaching inspection at public school |
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I was told sometime in June, other native teachers and their KT will be coming to one of my classes to observe it. Also, GEPIK people will be there.
What exactly is this? Are they gonna grade me on how I teach?
My KT wants to change our teaching style from 50/50 to 90(me)/10(her) in preparation for the day. |
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midian3x
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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I just went to one where it was 90/10 korean teacher/ native english teacher.
It is just a dog and pony show. |
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ChuckECheese
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| midian3x wrote: |
I just went to one where it was 90/10 korean teacher/ native english teacher.
It is just a dog and pony show. |
Did they like the doggie style or pony style? |
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kimchi story
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ChuckECheese wrote: |
| Did they like the doggie style or pony style? |
Rimshot! What's the dif? Is it a question of endowment?
Seriously op - it's a real trial by fire event. The GEPIK director will grill you in front of your colleagues about your methods and approach and he won't stop short of personal attacks to put you in your place. So far I've seen two foreigners cry and a third quit because the director actually stopped the demo class to lambast the poor girl about her attire - she just walked out of the class, all shaking and freaked out, and never came back. I guess it's their way of establishing pecking order. I was lucky mine was on a Friday so I could drink the memory away over the weekend.
Okay seriously seriously, don't worry about it. Your school will set things up and your role is to help your coteacher perform the dog and pony show. In the worst case scenario - say, your coteacher is a total dolt and the class bombs - you will have to share some of the flack with your co-teacher during the after-class meeting (usually in a large room with about 25 people - GEPIK Admin, other English teachers, your VP). 70% of the feedback will likely be praise and 30% might be constructive criticism. It's over in about an hour and a half. And nobody told me this, but you may have to do one each term. My second one is in a coupla weeks.
And I believe it is the program itself that is being scrutinized - I didn't receive any evaluation feedback. |
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mrsquirrel
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| 70% of the feedback will likely be praise and 30% might be constructive criticism. |
I thought they only looked for negatives here. Constructive negative feedback? |
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bosintang
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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In my MS demo lessons that I've attended, all were impractical, done with Grade 1 students (easiest material, most enthusiastic students), and were complete dog & pony shows. The meeting afterwards were nothing more than a few people blowing smoke up the participants asses about how great there lessons were, one special "Cultural officer" (or something like that) giving a pre-rehearsed speech about the students needing more practice and perhaps a tiny bit of feedback. And that's all. No sweat off our end.
There's been a few posters talking about their classes switching 90 KET/ 10 NET lately. Is this a trend or just a coincidence? |
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kimchi story
Joined: 23 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| 70% of the feedback will likely be praise and 30% might be constructive criticism. |
I thought they only looked for negatives here. Constructive negative feedback? |
I would classify what I've seen as constructive and not wickedly negative. I haven't seen an all-out roast yet, but I'm hopeful...
Oh, and I'm talking about the roundtable feedback, not the written stuff. There is a lot of room to air negatives in the written stuff. |
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bosintang
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I would classify what I've seen as constructive and not wickedly negative. I haven't seen an all-out roast yet, but I'm hopeful...
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I don't think it will happen. Everyone knows these demo lessons are nothing but dog & pony shows, nobody wants to attend them, and everyone wants to get them over with as quickly as possible.
It'd be pretty funny if things did get ugly though. I bet it would be really extreme. It'd go from rainbows and sunshine to nastiness very quickly. Very unlikely though. |
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JD1982
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I've done mine last month.
It's a real dog and pony show as someone has said already.
My co-teacher actually picked out the best 6th grade class and for two days before the actual demo class, she was preping the students as to what to say and how to say during the class.
It's basically useless crap. Show of how well you can put on an organized dog and pony show. 
And actually, we had a room full of teachers and other VIPs in our demo class. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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My coteacher asked me which classes I thought would be the best for the occasion. Also, we decided on a 6th grade class since they have the most English comprehension.
Does anyone know what it is that GEPIK expects in the classroom? Do they want the NT to do most of the teaching and the KT as backup, or do they want to see a 50/50 tag in, tag out type of style?
I wanna be sure we get it right so that when it comes time to renew my contract, my school will do everything they can to try and keep me here. Obviously, if me and the KT look good, the school looks good and the Principal can have something to brag about to his colleagues. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| The GEPIK director will grill you in front of your colleagues about your methods and approach and he won't stop short of personal attacks to put you in your place. |
I don't mind anything they say or do in after class, but during class he better not interrupt. Out of reflex and habit I'll probably tell him to stand up, put his hands in the air and be quiet. |
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kimchi story
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
Does anyone know what it is that GEPIK expects in the classroom? Do they want the NT to do most of the teaching and the KT as backup, or do they want to see a 50/50 tag in, tag out type of style?
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That's what I did last time - the class had four components and cotecher worked two and I worked two. This time it's going to be me introducing and the co-teacher reiterating - it's a shift towards the 90/10 model and it is happening in most of my classes. More like 70/30, tho, and I like it there.
I've never seen anything but absolute silence from the observers during the class itself. Never seen tears afterward, either.
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| Out of reflex and habit I'll probably tell him to stand up, put his hands in the air and be quiet. |
That's a great visual! I think I'd give him a swat on the forehead with the coteacher's stick.
*whack*
Sshhhhh... |
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rawiri
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My elementary school was freaking out about it. My supervisor wanted to me to co teach with the 3rd grade, these are kids who don't do anything but sit and squirm all class listening to the korean teachers shitty pronunciation. I told him no way, i'm teaching 5th grade and i'm teaching it my way, this is not up for argument. Now i know i was playing hardball but the fact is that i have a good working relationship with the 5th grade kids (not their teacher, the biatch poked his head into the class on my first day, giggled and ran off, leaving me to it, the most profound thing he had to say to me ever is "hello teacher....giggle" and run off).
So i planned it, wrote it all up and everything, taught about 90 percent giving him a tokenistic role so not as to lose face in front of the honcho's and went at it. It went smooth as silk with some good reviews all round. I wouldn't recommend this approach to anyone who doesn't have a good teaching system down or if your supervisor is a bit of a *beep* but if you can pull it off it looks really good. |
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Wrench
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| Had one yesterday.. It was a whoping 1 minute that they stoped in. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| kimchi story wrote: |
| ChuckECheese wrote: |
| Did they like the doggie style or pony style? |
Rimshot! What's the dif? Is it a question of endowment?
Seriously op - it's a real trial by fire event. The GEPIK director will grill you in front of your colleagues about your methods and approach and he won't stop short of personal attacks to put you in your place. So far I've seen two foreigners cry and a third quit because the director actually stopped the demo class to lambast the poor girl about her attire - she just walked out of the class, all shaking and freaked out, and never came back. I guess it's their way of establishing pecking order. I was lucky mine was on a Friday so I could drink the memory away over the weekend.
Okay seriously seriously, don't worry about it. Your school will set things up and your role is to help your coteacher perform the dog and pony show. In the worst case scenario - say, your coteacher is a total dolt and the class bombs - you will have to share some of the flack with your co-teacher during the after-class meeting (usually in a large room with about 25 people - GEPIK Admin, other English teachers, your VP). 70% of the feedback will likely be praise and 30% might be constructive criticism. It's over in about an hour and a half. And nobody told me this, but you may have to do one each term. My second one is in a coupla weeks.
And I believe it is the program itself that is being scrutinized - I didn't receive any evaluation feedback. |
25? That's quite a large group...I struggle to get 10. |
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