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JD1982



Joined: 19 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Public school sick leave Reply with quote

I called in sick this morning and my co-teacher raised hell. This is second time I got sick eating some unknown Korean food this month.

Apparently, she doesn't believe me that I'm sick. So instead of being concerned for my health, she kept calling me to come in. She told me that teachers can't possibly get sick twice in a same month. She also told me that I have to make up the missed classes and I must bring a doctor's diagnosis slip.

This is my first teaching job in Korea. Is this usual way that FTs are treated when we're sick?

I am seriously considering resigning tomorrow if my co-teacher doesn't apologize for all the things that she said this morning.

How should I handle this situation?
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kurva anjad



Joined: 19 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call in sick tomorrow. You get fifteen sick days.
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Public school sick leave Reply with quote

JD1982 wrote:

I am seriously considering resigning tomorrow if my co-teacher doesn't apologize for all the things that she said this morning.

How should I handle this situation?


Even though you get 15 sick days, a lot of Korean teachers feel like you shouldn't use them. It is true that other teachers usually have to cover you classes and it creates more work for them. Why not just call in sick and then turn off your phone so you don't have to hear from the school again?
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icicle



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Public school sick leave Reply with quote

JD1982 wrote:
I called in sick this morning and my co-teacher raised hell. This is second time I got sick eating some unknown Korean food this month.

Apparently, she doesn't believe me that I'm sick. So instead of being concerned for my health, she kept calling me to come in. She told me that teachers can't possibly get sick twice in a same month. She also told me that I have to make up the missed classes and I must bring a doctor's diagnosis slip.

This is my first teaching job in Korea. Is this usual way that FTs are treated when we're sick?

I am seriously considering resigning tomorrow if my co-teacher doesn't apologize for all the things that she said this morning.

How should I handle this situation?


What does your contract say about sick leave ... Mine has a certain period ... A week I think ... after which a medical certificate must be supplied ... Your contract should I think tell you what the procedures are and when you are required to supply a medical certificate. I think there are some contracts that literally do require a medical certificate with each sick day ... But mine (public school) does have some leeway on that.

As another poster said it is probably not so much not believing what you say as a cultural difference in that Koreans generally avoid taking sick leave ..

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Colorado



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're sick you should go to the doctor. Ask the doctor if you need to stay home. If he says yes, get it in writing to show your school. If he says no, get your lazy butt to school.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calling in sick in Korea is frowned upon.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If you're sick you should go to the doctor. "

Maybe you're just playing devils advocate, or maybe you're Korean. I got a nick from one of those little click blade things the other day, and my co-teacher said I must go to the hospital. I pinched it closed for five minutes, and it was done.

One doesn't need to run to a doctor for every little thing. I took a sick day just after christmas simply because I had 'unpredictable' diarhea. I didn't feel sick. I didn't have a temperature. My stomach didn't hurt. I wasn't dizzy. I just had to run to the john every 20 minutes...but with less than ten seconds warning before eruption. It passed in the early afternoon. Doctor? Hell no.

OP. Turn your phone off. If you feel well enough to work tomorrow, work. If you don't, don't. Check your contract. I think mine actually wants a note for even a day (yes, public school), but I don't recall. If you need a note, get a note. If you don't, ignore your co-teacher. If he or she is foolish enough to come to your home to accost you, throw up on them.

Get well soon.
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kurva anjad



Joined: 19 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colorado wrote:
If you're sick you should go to the doctor.


Yes. Be as Korean as possible. Run up the countries' health care costs. Because after all, it's impossible to know if your own body is telling you that you simply have a cold and need to take a day off. Plus, you'll get to take three days of antibiotics that won't actually kill the infection/virus, but just surpress it long enough for the virus to fester for another month. Boy, wait til THAT one hits. You'll feel like hanging yourself.
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Colorado



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe you're just playing devils advocate, or maybe you're Korean.


Neither.

If you are not sick enough to go to a doctor, you're not sick enough to stay home.
It's true that you shouldn't be running off to the doctor over every little thing, but you also shouldn't be staying home over every little thing either.
The doctor could have given you something for the runs and your co-teachers wouldn't have had to cover your classes.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The doctor could have given you something for the runs and your co-teachers wouldn't have had to cover your classes."

And I would likely have shat myself a couple of times on the way to the doctors....

Yes, my co-teachers cover my classes....and I cover theirs. I'm at about +15 in the class covering department.
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Colorado



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, my co-teachers cover my classes....and I cover theirs. I'm at about +15 in the class covering department.


Well then, you are the exception. Good for you. Feel free to take the rest of the week off. Very Happy
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, I am. Mid-terms. Laughing
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JD1982



Joined: 19 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice.

After hugging the toilet all night and morning, I just returned from seeing a cool Korean doctor who studied in the US and spoke almost flawless English (but with accent).

I told him about my symptoms and what happened with my co-teacher this morning. He laughed and told me pretty much that that's the Korean way like some of you said.

While I was lying down on the meat table, the doctor started to do the poking in my abdomin and I almost lost it like the Poet13 said it would.

His diagonosis is that I have acute gastroreitis from consuming contaminated food or water with severe dehydration from vomitting and diaharrea.

The doctor gave me a shot and a prescription which I just filled which includes 6 different pill per dose. Shocked

He also gave me 2 or 3 days off slip to take to school where the third day being my discretion. If I still feel ill, I don't have to go to work on third day.

And concerning my sick leave in my contract, it does say that I have 15 sick leaves and I don't have to provide them with medical certificate unless the absence is 7 days or more. I just don't understand Koreans' behavior...... Rolling Eyes

I'm just going to rest up and recoop for two days for sure. But for the third day, should I take that day off too?
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JJJ



Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I'm just going to rest up and recoop for two days for sure. But for the third day, should I take that day off too?"


Why not, you got the note. You are safe. Might as well take it easy. If you say you have mid terms now...that means your sitting around doing nothing all day anyhow. Relax.

I also have these supposed 15 days but it is really difficult to use them at my school. K elementary teachers do use them but I supposedly can not. Oh well, 4 months to go.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd wait and see how you feel. It all depends on your make up and how you react to the meds. The pills might work super quick and you'll be raring to go back to work on the third day OR you might still feel bad and need the extra day.

If your "supervisor" wants to know if you will take all three days off, tell her you can't predict the future Laughing

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