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Important letters about our issues in today's Korea Herald

 
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Ianinilsan



Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Important letters about our issues in today's Korea Herald Reply with quote

https://www.koreaherald.co.kr/archives/result_contents.asp?id=200705230064&query=teacher

It is absolutely imperative that the citizens of Korea be made aware of an insidious problem that exists in what many Westerners perceive as one of the most developed countries in Asia.
Korea may be technologically advanced, but when it comes to equality and justice there is room for improvement.
Many foreigners come to Korea to have a nice experience with Koreans and learn about the culture by teaching English. Unfortunately when they arrive many are effectively turned into "slaves" and are viciously abused by hagwon management. It very common for hagwon owners to withhold pay from foreigners, lie to them and treat them like second-class citizens.
It is truly sad to see my fellow Americans treated like this, and what bothers me is that they have absolutely no enforceable protection under Korean law. This is where Korea must develop; delivering equality and justice to foreigners whose rights are recklessly violated by hagwons.
I came to Korea during the same week that the United States signed a free trade agreement with Korea. But after observing the intense abuse and exploitation of American workers by hagwons it will only be a matter of time before Americans begin to shun Korea.
As a political figure in the United States, I will return home and warn every legislator I know about the exploitation of Americans that I have witnessed.

Aaron Maloy

Seoul and Cape Cod, Massachusetts



I was unwittingly caught up in a program that I now believe to be quite illegal.
I am a teacher in the "after school program" and my company uses a bank account in my name to collect fees from schools, but I have no control over the account.
I am on an E2 visa, which I understand only allows me to work for the company that sponsored the visa, in my case, a recruitment/after school program outfit.
Despite my misgivings, a company man escorted me to the local bank branch and did all the talking. He took the bank book, cash flow card and secretly decided on the pin number.
There seems to be several versions of this scam, with the public schools involved in the after school program paying fees directly into an account opened by the teacher, thus avoiding all sorts of taxes for the company. The teacher is then paid a salary - obviously far less than the fees paid by the contracting school - by the company or hagwon who organized the scam.
The company is avoiding taxes, and the poor teacher could ultimately find himself facing a huge income tax bill for money he didn't actually see or receive.
I read about a similar case on an English teachers' message board who says he contacted the Labor Board and the local tax office but they expressed no interest in his case. If that is true, and given the power the employer has over my visa, it seems I am trapped in an illegal enterprise with very little recourse.
The only thing I can do is close the account and disappear. But then I will not get any salary, severance pay or reimbursement for my air ticket, and because the company controls my E-2 visa, I will not get a "letter of release" that will allow me to work elsewhere. My only option would be to leave the country, with little chance of returning.
This is another compelling reason to change the E2 conditions: So Korean employers cannot so easily manipulate foreign teachers to become unwilling accomplices in their illegal schemes.

Name and address withheld



 I was fired by my hagwon in late October last year after taking them to the Labor Board over unpaid overtime, excess tax and no pension.
 Although they fired me without just cause, they felt entitled to withhold my last pay cheque for recruiting fees and airfare. The Labor Board ruled in my favor but my hagwon has refused to pay.
 I took the judgment to legal aid at the end of November and the case is finally going to court on May 28.
 The Labor Board really needs to have more teeth. The legal system is stacked in favor of the employer since he has time on his side. It's much easier to hire another ignorant foreigner than to obey the law, especially when they can get away with not paying teachers.
 My boss has already told me he will appeal any decision made and would still refuse to pay regardless of any court order. He's assured me he will make it as difficult as he can for me, saying it would take two to three years for me to see any money. Immigration officials even told me not to bother taking it to court as it was a near impossibility I would ever see any money. The labor hotline had told me everything should have been resolved within two months. Had I known it would've taken so long, I probably would have just left, as sick as it would've made me.

 Things have got to change.

 Tyler Moorhead

no

2007.05.23
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see these letters made it to print.
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kingtout



Joined: 03 May 2007
Location: ROK...again...

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Good to see these letters made it to print.


Woopdie Doo. How many Koreans read the English language newspapers? Maybe 6?
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW Shocked

We've come a long way. I never thought I'd see letters like this published in a Korean newspaper Shocked .

Too bad it's just the English rag. It's something, though. Very Happy
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a step in the right direction, any publicity is good publicity. It may appear to be a small and insignificant endeavour, but eventually it may help to embarrass the establishment into doing something, hopefully scrapping the whole E2 letter of release nonsense.
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excitinghead



Joined: 18 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingtout wrote:
wylies99 wrote:
Good to see these letters made it to print.


Woopdie Doo. How many Koreans read the English language newspapers? Maybe 6?


600,000 would probably be closer! They're targeted towards Koreans learning English, not the small numbers of English speaking foreigners in Korea, which explains the quality. Sounds like they're getting better recently though, FINALLY giving some attention to the hogwan issue.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Important letters about our issues in today's Korea Hera Reply with quote

Ianinilsan wrote:
Despite my misgivings, a company man escorted me to the local bank branch and did all the talking. He took the bank book, cash flow card and secretly decided on the pin number.


Major crash. People like this get no sympathy from me. They have no backbone at all. It's little wonder they get ripped off. Who on earth would let themselves get into this type of situation? People like this dufus make me ashamed to be a westerner. These scammers might start thinking we are all space cadets. Scams like this are certainly not unique to Korea either; people like this would get taken for a ride back home too. Honestly, in the same situation I would probably laugh at the guy for trying it.

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The company is avoiding taxes, and the poor teacher could ultimately find himself facing a huge income tax bill for money he didn't actually see or receive.


Is this guy for real? Like back home; don't let someone open up a bank account in your name and decide the PIN number. I thought this was a no brainer.



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I read about a similar case on an English teachers' message board who says he contacted the Labor Board and the local tax office but they expressed no interest in his case.


Now that is concerning.
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder what Aaron Maloy means by saying he's "a political figure in the United States"?
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cerulean808



Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwanjuboy

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Like back home


Your talking out your butt.

Clearly it's not like back home, Gwanjuboy, or back home can your employer effectively stop you earning income for up to a year if you don't do what they say?

That's the point of these letters, which has gone over the top of your head obviously in your rush to kick a guy whose down. The laws here or their lack of enforcement give Korean employers power to manipulate and abuse FT with near impunity.

Drop the self righteous attitude, Gwanjuboy.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cerulean808 wrote:
Clearly it's not like back home, Gwanjuboy



Are you suggesting that scammers don't operate back home? Please don't suggest that this is the case.



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back home can your employer effectively stop you earning income for up to a year if you don't do what they say?


Where can that happen? An employer in Korea cannot stop an employee earning money for a year if that employee refuses to do something which would violate Korean law.

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The laws here or their lack of enforcement give Korean employers power to manipulate and abuse FT with near impunity.



The victim of the scam had one of many different options. He claimed in the letter that the tax office wasn't interested in his case. I find it difficult to believe there wasn't a language barrier or that he didn't present his case properly. He could of course have just made the whole story up. How would we know? Failing all esle he could have requested a change of PIN at his bank. What are his employers going to do about it? Fire him? I bet they wouldn't. Even if they did it's no big deal; he won't have to work for a shady boss anymore. Move on and get something else going.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that second letter is the most important. the cat is out of the bag and no one in Korean government can act like "Sgt Schultz" of "Hogan's Heroes"- I see NOTHING Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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plokiju



Joined: 15 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwangjuboy wrote:


The victim of the scam had one of many different options. He claimed in the letter that the tax office wasn't interested in his case. I find it difficult to believe there wasn't a language barrier or that he didn't present his case properly. He could of course have just made the whole story up. How would we know? Failing all esle he could have requested a change of PIN at his bank. What are his employers going to do about it? Fire him? I bet they wouldn't. Even if they did it's no big deal; he won't have to work for a shady boss anymore. Move on and get something else going.


I think most Koreans just have a naive notion that all Koreans obey the laws. I went to file a complaint with pension office last year because my boss wasn't paying into it. Apparently, he paid for the month of August and then withdrew me. I explained to the pension office (through a large language barrier) that I'd worked from May to October there and showed them my contract, my ARC, and the visa in my passport to prove it. Finally, they believed me and not the computer that said I'd only worked there for 1 month. They seemed incapable of believing that anyone would try to defraud the pension office. Maybe the tax office just didn't believe that it could happen or equally likely that they didn't understand what he was saying. Or maybe it wasn't their jurisdiction. Who knows?

Also they had control over his PIN so he couldn't do anything about it at that end really. It would've been better to go to the school directly and tell them what had happened to try to cut out the shady middle man.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They seem to know there are crooks in this industry, but they just don't seem to believe that "Mr. Kim or Mr. Lee" at THEIR hogwan could be one of them. After all, he's SO NICE. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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