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True Samurai



Joined: 07 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Can I Run? Reply with quote

I have issues to deal with back in my country of origin. My hagwon isn't too bad, but I am there 8:30 to 7: 15 - five days a week - with an occasional Saturday outing. I know it�s treachrrous of me and I know I�ll lose money, but what if I just got on a plane and left? The thing is that while I have got my E2 visa, I haven�t been to the immigration office yet to register. You know, we have 90 days, and I have about 60 days left to go. But because it�s so busy at the hagwon they haven�t given me time off yet to go register.

So if I could get my people to send me airline ticket money, and if I just slipped away to the international airport one dark Friday night, could I get out of the country? What is my legal visa status, not having registered yet? Could I pass through customs all right or would they send me back or charge me with something or what? Please understand that I am only considering this, it�s not a desperate plan, but it would be good to go home and see to all the things that need seen to there. I appreciate nay help and advice anyone can offer.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can go without any problems. If they ask just say there's a family emergency. However, you will not be able to work again in Korea until your current visa expires. The fact that you haven't yet registered for your ARC doesn't matter.
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the answer to can you run is always yes.

your hours are horrible
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have to go, you can at any time.
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Ozabout7or8



Joined: 04 May 2007
Location: NZ

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try telling your boss if you think they will let you go. If not, like the other's said there is never anything the hagwon can do to actually prevent you from leaving the country.

It always seems scary in a foreign country with different laws to ours but rest assured that Hagwon owners cannot influence what happens at the Airport and unless you have criminal convictions pending there is little that can stop you leaving the country.

Apart from not having a ticket.
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Missile Command Kid



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you pay for your ticket out here? The honorable thing to do would be to pay for your ticket here *and* your ticket back home. Check your contract on that particular point.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are very bad hours. Can you wait until after payday on the 10th?

Please, after you leave post the name of the hogwan that has teachers working for those kind of hours.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
However, you will not be able to work again in Korea until your current visa expires.


Not necessarily.
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Can I Run? Reply with quote

True Samurai wrote:
I have issues to deal with back in my country of origin. My hagwon isn't too bad, but I am there 8:30 to 7: 15 - five days a week - with an occasional Saturday outing. I know it�s treachrrous of me and I know I�ll lose money, but what if I just got on a plane and left? The thing is that while I have got my E2 visa, I haven�t been to the immigration office yet to register. You know, we have 90 days, and I have about 60 days left to go. But because it�s so busy at the hagwon they haven�t given me time off yet to go register.

So if I could get my people to send me airline ticket money, and if I just slipped away to the international airport one dark Friday night, could I get out of the country? What is my legal visa status, not having registered yet? Could I pass through customs all right or would they send me back or charge me with something or what? Please understand that I am only considering this, it�s not a desperate plan, but it would be good to go home and see to all the things that need seen to there. I appreciate nay help and advice anyone can offer.


(1) I think it would be a good idea to talk with your employer. See if you can get your employer to accompany you to Immigration to cancel your visa. A letter of release will do the trick as well. If you get that, then bring it to immigration. They will issue you a fourteen (14) day exit order. However, your employer will most likely expect you to cough up money for the airfare.
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Ianinilsan



Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can always run. That is always an option, but it should be considered your last option. Obviously this hakwan is not treating you well. First, try to be a bigger person than the school's management. Put everything in writing. That is a smart legal move and may intimidate them enough to start treating you like a person and not just another piece of furniture. Signed and dated letters to the owner are a good place to start.
If things don't improve, you may need to run.
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kimchi story



Joined: 23 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: Can I Run? Reply with quote

True Samurai wrote:
Please understand that I am only considering this, it�s not a desperate plan.


I was going through this exact thought process last week. I have a cushy job, my colleagues are fun, my students have embraced my presence in the school. I'm into my ninth month, and on the surface everything is going swimmingly. But last week I was feeling right off. I have a great life on hold in Canada and I choose to remain pretty isolated here. On Monday I was looking at tickets and figuring out the logistics of it.

It's like Nietzche said about suicide (I think that's who it was) - remember that it's always an option. Sometimes knowing that we have options makes things more bearable.

Running is an option - but then you'll have to live with having done it (unlike suicide in that respect, of course). And if you stick it out you get to live with that accomplishment. My first job here was at a hagwon and I think working in a hagwon is like being a dry alcoholic - everyday it's a struggle to stay on the wagon. Some days are just less of a struggle than others.
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