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Wages in the Philippines!!??
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Wages in the Philippines!!?? Reply with quote

So, I was thinking how nice it would be to live in the Philippines. I did some research, and fount this site which tells, "Average Monthly Wage Rates Of Selected Occupations in Selected Non-Agricultural Industries, Metro Manila":

http://www.coa.gov.ph/tsolmp/TSOIntra/Manpower(labor).htm


According to this site, accountants, who make more than doctors, make a grand total of 17,113 pesos a month.

enter www.xe.com

That's 362.523 USD per month!!!???

uh, WTF. Guess I'll stay in teaching for awhile.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, they're pretty poor.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is why they have one of the largest populations of overseas workers on the planet.
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Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat



Joined: 01 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard like $3 per day is enough to live on there. Damn, there goes my daily cup o' Joe...
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am tempted to be sarcastic and say something like "Duh!" but I won't. The Philippines is still a very poor country yes. A long history of economic mismanagement and corruption have held the nation back. It is interesting to see that The Philippines were economically superior to South Korea for many years. (After WW2 and through the Korean War for obvious reasons) I am not sure if The Philippines have received as much foreign aid as South Korea has though. It would be interesting to do a comparitive study.
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Yo!Chingo



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent about 2 weeks in the Philippines. I lived in what would be considered normal to slightly above normal filipino housing with no shower or air conditioning. It was an eye opening experience to say the least. Most people live in shanty towns in conditions well below Western standards. The funny thing is, filipinos are generally extremely sweet and giving people despite their circumstance. They're also educated for the most part and speak good english. The problems that I saw are government corruption and that the best and brightest are moving away to other countries for better opportunities. The Philippines isn't keeping the brain power in their own country.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apprantly, way back in the 60's and 70's the Philippines was 2nd to Japan in terms of economic growth. Many Asians believed the Philippines was a good model for how to do things right. That is why so many Korean religious schools have ties with schools in the Philippines. Then came Ferdinand Marcos. He could have done what the dictators of SKorea, Taiwan, Hong Kong (British admins) and Singapore did during that time. But, corruption took its toll.

Interesting theory some Koreans have. Countries with cold winters tend to have higher standards of living. But, warmer countries are less developed.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
I am tempted to be sarcastic and say something like "Duh!" but I won't. The Philippines is still a very poor country yes. A long history of economic mismanagement and corruption have held the nation back. It is interesting to see that The Philippines were economically superior to South Korea for many years. (After WW2 and through the Korean War for obvious reasons) I am not sure if The Philippines have received as much foreign aid as South Korea has though. It would be interesting to do a comparitive study.


Well, aid or no aid the Phillippines would never compete with Korea. Different work ethic, I guess. Or lack of one.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:


Interesting theory some Koreans have. Countries with cold winters tend to have higher standards of living. But, warmer countries are less developed.


Its not a Korean theory. The only countries with warm climates have an anglo-saxon (European) cultural base. Hot weather makes people lazy. This is why except for a few cases, most countries near the equator are dirt poor. Singapore and Australia are the only ones that come to mind as the exceptions.
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wo buxihuan hanguoren



Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
jvalmer wrote:


Interesting theory some Koreans have. Countries with cold winters tend to have higher standards of living. But, warmer countries are less developed.


Its not a Korean theory. The only countries with warm climates have an anglo-saxon (European) cultural base. Hot weather makes people lazy. This is why except for a few cases, most countries near the equator are dirt poor. Singapore and Australia are the only ones that come to mind as the exceptions.


Hot weather makes people lazy? Where is your proof that poor countries with warm climates are only poor because the people are lazy?

Please explain how the Romans, Mayans, Greeks, Egyptians, Incas, Portuguese, Spaniards, Kampuchians, Persians etc were able to start empires, or build amazing architecture, or invent things, or conquer other countries etc if the weather made them lazy.

Also, the onus is on you to prove that Africans are lazy because of the weather, too.
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
jvalmer wrote:


Interesting theory some Koreans have. Countries with cold winters tend to have higher standards of living. But, warmer countries are less developed.


Its not a Korean theory. The only countries with warm climates have an anglo-saxon (European) cultural base. Hot weather makes people lazy. This is why except for a few cases, most countries near the equator are dirt poor. Singapore and Australia are the only ones that come to mind as the exceptions.


Sounds like somebody needs to read Guns, Germs, and Steel
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in_seoul_2003



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
Guri Guy wrote:
I am tempted to be sarcastic and say something like "Duh!" but I won't. The Philippines is still a very poor country yes. A long history of economic mismanagement and corruption have held the nation back. It is interesting to see that The Philippines were economically superior to South Korea for many years. (After WW2 and through the Korean War for obvious reasons) I am not sure if The Philippines have received as much foreign aid as South Korea has though. It would be interesting to do a comparitive study.


Well, aid or no aid the Phillippines would never compete with Korea. Different work ethic, I guess. Or lack of one.

You see many very educated Filipinos going abroad to work at some pretty slave-live demeaning conditions.. regularly.
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dncinartist



Joined: 26 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've known many of the immigrant filipino workers (From Dubai to Japan, Hong Kong, LA, and Honolulu),working menial jobs with long hours, who have been separated from their children for 5+ years. They working and live under these conditions JUST so they can make a buck, send it home, and pray that there is a chance to save enough money for lawyer fees to get their families out of an environment surrounded by poverty and corruption.

So please, don't talk about pinoys and pinays not having any work ethics.

Take a little time to study about the country's occupation first by Spain, then by America as a U.S territory and see what kind of state that left the Philippines in.

'Foreign aid' doesn't come for free. Just take a look at all the islands in Micornesia and melanesia that have been colonised by the west. Not to mention what is going on in the Middle East.

So I pose a question: Is autonomy a right? a privelege? or an illusion?

Sorry for the long post-and sorry I deviated from the OP
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Guri Guy



Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Well, aid or no aid the Phillippines would never compete with Korea. Different work ethic, I guess. Or lack of one.


Completely ridiculous and at best borderline racist. I think the word that describes it best is "smug".
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