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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: I have a serious question to all of you. Reply with quote

Some of you seem really dislike/hate korea/korean, but why you guys still RE-SIGN your contracts and stay ( or try to stay ) in korea ????

I am living in America, somethings I like and somethings I don't like about America/American, but nothing like your feeling of korea/korean.

I try to understand what it's like to stay in country you hate, what it's like ????

Is there no better option for you in another countries or in your own country ? ESL jobs in korea is the only option you have ?, is there no better option for you anywhere ????

Some of guys said money is the main reason they stay in korea, well I can understand the importance of money and the importance of pay off student loan, but is money that important ???
You shouldn't become a slave of money, it's not worth.

Life is short, if you don't enjoy what you are doing in korea ( or elsewhere ) you need to look at youself and question seriously at yourself " Is this worth ? "

If I didn't like America/American the way you don't like korea/korean, there is NO WAY I stay in America.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STFU. I'm guessing my sentiments are felt by many teachers on this board.
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KumaraKitty



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with MissSeoul. In the case of GI's, many do not want to be here, but they have no choice. We have choices. I happen to love it here, I've made it my home. So many people on here complain, well then STFU and go elsewhere. No one made you come here and no one made you stay.
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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MissSeoul, I challenge you to re-write that post in Korean (a romanization will do if you don't have access to a hangeul keyboard). I don't think you will do it, because I don't think you are a Korean at all. But please, surprise me.

PS: I don't mind Korea. It has its ups and downs, but there's enough going on here to keep me busy.


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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: I have a serious question to all of you. Reply with quote

MissSeoul wrote:
Some of you seem really dislike/hate korea/korean, but why you guys still RE-SIGN your contracts and stay ( or try to stay ) in korea ????

I am living in America, somethings I like and somethings I don't like about America/American, but nothing like your feeling of korea/korean.

I try to understand what it's like to stay in country you hate, what it's like ????

Is there no better option for you in another countries or in your own country ? ESL jobs in korea is the only option you have ?, is there no better option for you anywhere ????

Sone of guys said money is the main reason they stay in korea, well I can understand the importance of money and the importance of pay off student loan, but is money that important ???
You shouldn't become a slave of money, it's not worth.

Life is short, if you don't enjoy what you are doing in korea ( or elsewhere ) you need to look at youself and question seriously at yourself " Is this worth ? "

If I didn't like America/American the way you don't like korea/korean, there is NO WAY I stay in America.


1. Free five room apt.

2. Good savings.

3. Very small workload.

Plus I like living here (I'm not one of the Korea haters, I'd leave if I didn't like living here.) I know I'm not fully integrated into Korean society and personally wouldn't want to be (doesn't mean I don't like Korean people, just prefer my country's social structures and lifestyle etc), but I still have good times and like going to Seoul at weekends and travelling here in spare time.

But seriously, most people probably are in the same state of mind as me.

If I were you, I'd think seriously about whether or not you need to waste your time on this site. You must realise, most of us post here during daytime hours because we're bored. If you find a lot of negativity here and find it affecting you, I'd stop visiting the site if I were you.

You're not getting the 'real picture' about how foriegn ESL teachers living in Korea feel about Korea. It's only a tiny percent of them and to be honest the more outgoing, happy type are less likey to be venting their issues on Daves.

Out of all my friends here (over 20 of them, around 40 if including acquaintences) I don't know one that would reflect the same opinions poosted by the Korea haters here on this site. In fact most of them are a bit too naive for my liking and think Korea is really overly wonderful. I'm not saying it's not, just that they don't have a realistic picture of Korea either because they're new and in the honeymoon phase....

Think about it, you're NOT getting the majority view here on Dave's. Far, far from it.... Dave's posters probably make up only 1% of the esl teaching population in Korea.


Think about it...


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Whitey Otez



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: The suburbs of Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"He who complains the most about a horse will end up buying it."
-Benjamin Franklin
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hierophant wrote:
MissSeoul, I challenge you to re-write that post in Korean (a romanization will do if you don't have access to a hangeul keyboard).

I don't think you will do it, because I don't think you are a Korean at all. But please, surprise me.

PS: I don't mind Korea. It has its ups and downs, but there's enough going on here to keep me busy.


TH,

I tend to agree with you. Her posts have "troll" written all over them.
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am slave my Korean wife she want stay Korea ten year. I no choice must stay Korea become like Korean always pushing spitting shoving cannot make in line must always be number one off train now speak like Korean.
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: I have a serious question to all of you. Reply with quote

venus wrote:
If you find a lot fo negativity here and find it affecting you, I'd stop visiting the site if I were you.



I just try to understand ESL teachers in Korea.
Honestly I lost respect...
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperFly wrote:
I am slave my Korean wife she want stay Korea ten year. I no choice must stay Korea become like Korean always pushing spitting shoving cannot make in line must always be number one off train now speak like Korean.


You are very lucky that you can stay in korea with your wife.
I wish I had that chance....
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: I have a serious question to all of you. Reply with quote

MissSeoul wrote:
venus wrote:
If you find a lot fo negativity here and find it affecting you, I'd stop visiting the site if I were you.



I just try to understand ESL teachers in Korea.
Honestly I lost respect...


Like I said, you lost respect for all esl teachers from reading the rantings of a tiny portion of the population who post here.

It is not the big picture.

If you WERE HERE IN KOREA, you would find most are happy being here. Most people I meet are and their main complaints are about their working conditions....
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: I have a serious question to all of you. Reply with quote

MissSeoul wrote:
Some of you seem really dislike/hate korea/korean, but why you guys still RE-SIGN your contracts and stay ( or try to stay ) in korea ????

I am living in America, somethings I like and somethings I don't like about America/American, but nothing like your feeling of korea/korean.

I try to understand what it's like to stay in country you hate, what it's like ????


Assuming you're not a silly troll, you've clearly not picked up on the habit of white people to just complain about everything around them. That's why you don't see motorcycles running our kids down on the sidewalks of North America.
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kimchi story



Joined: 23 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a lucrative cycle, ain't it?

Korea is a relatively unfriendly place for foreigners so employers have to offer the sweetest deal in the ESL market (hands down, period, full stop) to keep people coming - and they do keep coming. Because hiring standards are low, all types of desirables and undesirables are attracted to the work, inevitably increasing the local disdain for foreigners, the very disdain that makes the place unfriendly.

Rinse. Repeat.

I'm here for the cash. The expat experience builds character no matter where you are and different cultures are always exciting - but I put up with the quirks specific to Korea because they are ultimately the reason for the sweet cash.

Can I be any more clear, MissTroll...er...Seoul?


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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone ever seen MissSeoul write in Korean?
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="kimchi story"]It's a lucrative cycle, ain't it? [quote]


Not sure for that part.


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