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rokricky



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: Yongsan, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Shot self in foot/need to vent or I'll jump out my window. Reply with quote

Our University sports director approached me about doing a private class 3 evenings a week. I do sports training almost every evening so I was preparing to refuse when he offered me 50,000 a class. Of course at that price I was willing to sacrifice some of my training time on the grounds that the director of the English department allowed me to do so (I was trying to be a good girl!). So the sports director talked with the English director and the two of them have decided that this is to be mandatory overtime at 18,000 an hour. They�ve taken all the control out of my hands, so I can�t decide on the time and I can�t cancel classes if I have something I want to do. I totally shot myself in the foot, eh! Now they are trying to make me do 3 classes a week (20 students/class) for 18,000\ and hour not 50 as was originally promised and this will continue next term as well. I want to cry. What can I do?
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They must be giving the students a break on the price of the course if you're only getting 18,000 per hour. In case Korean labour law has changed mandatory OT is illegal. Just refuse to do it unless they pay you 50 per hour.
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rokricky



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: Yongsan, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just told them 30,000/fifty minute class, 2 days a week, 6-7 (dinner time- just to piss them off) 1 month only.

That still doesn't prevent them from making it part of my regular class schedule next term as long as it's not overtime. They know I don't want to do eveing classes, so far my schedule has worked out fine that way, but next term they're going to screw me.

Anyway....why the hell should I have to compromise????
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on what your contract says. Hours of work, overtime pay, etc.

I've fortunately never had to break out the contract, and I'd advise against if possible.

However, if they are trying to pull some b.s, you gotta do what you gotta do.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Shot self in foot/need to vent or I'll jump out my windo Reply with quote

rokricky wrote:
Our University sports director approached me about doing a private class 3 evenings a week. I do sports training almost every evening so I was preparing to refuse when he offered me 50,000 a class. Of course at that price I was willing to sacrifice some of my training time on the grounds that the director of the English department allowed me to do so (I was trying to be a good girl!). So the sports director talked with the English director and the two of them have decided that this is to be mandatory overtime at 18,000 an hour. They�ve taken all the control out of my hands, so I can�t decide on the time and I can�t cancel classes if I have something I want to do. I totally shot myself in the foot, eh! Now they are trying to make me do 3 classes a week (20 students/class) for 18,000\ and hour not 50 as was originally promised and this will continue next term as well. I want to cry. What can I do?



What does your contract say in regards to the time you are supposed to work?

Anyway forced overtime is illegal and why would you want to work at a place that treats you like that? Tell them that they will have a letter of resignation on their desk if they continue this nonsense. Because if you let them get away with this...it will just be the tip of the iceberg. They are testing you to see how much they can get away with.


OR

You could just show up to these classes, pop a DVD in and give them a worksheet based on the DVD to fill out. Normally I recommend doing a excellent job but if they are shafting you like this, then just do the mimimum.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These were supposed to be private classes, I'd say they are taking the students money paying the teacher jack all and pocketing the rest...don't do it. If you do, make sure the president knows about it and everyone at the billing office as well. In fact, post papers on all the campus message boards advertising it as well.
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a strange story.
If they decide to make it OFFICIAL overtime, then just say you don't want to do it anymore.
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TheBrain



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Acme Lab

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP- Don't volunteer to help them. You tried to help them and look what happened. Evidently, no one is worth their word, so be wary of volunteering in the future.
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Grimalkin



Joined: 22 May 2005

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
These were supposed to be private classes, I'd say they are taking the students money paying the teacher jack all and pocketing the rest...


Yeah that was what I thought too when I read your story. The two have gotten together to split the profits and cut you out!
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh.. don't do it. They guy lied to you. They're keeping money for themselves.

"He said I would get 50, so I'm not doing it."

Don't let them use the excuse of OT by contract. That's BS. 20 students is a lot of money.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grimalkin wrote:
spliff wrote:
These were supposed to be private classes, I'd say they are taking the students money paying the teacher jack all and pocketing the rest...

Yeah that was what I thought too when I read your story. The two have gotten together to split the profits and cut you out!

Exactly. Tell them that was not the original deal, so you are no longer giving up your free time. Go back to the original deal, and you'll think about it.
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Shot self in foot/need to vent or I'll jump out my windo Reply with quote

OP,

You could consider explaining to your boss that your not eligible to teach private classes since your on an E2 Visa. If says that's not true, then politely suggest that he call Korean Immigration to settle the dispute.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"You could consider explaining to your boss that your not eligible to teach private classes since your on an E2 Visa. If says that's not true, then politely suggest that he call Korean Immigration to settle the dispute."

I like this solution.

I agree with spliff and grimalkin. Somebodies gettin' extra soju money...
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with others here. Don't do it. They may actually try to entice you with more money. Don't do it. You have the upper hand. They need you in order for this to work. Don't do it.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty easy solution, don't show up for the lesson.
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