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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: When speaking with a foreigner from a particular school.. |
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How do you know it's legit? How do you know that person IS REALLY working at that school? Are people here finding out the phone numbers of the school, then calling back at another time and asking to speak to that foreigner, just to make sure they are actually at that school?
How many recruiters/schools out there use paid shills to tell prospects whatever they want to hear?
Also, companies are offering email addresses of foreigners as references. But again, how do you know who is actually replying?
Same goes with photos? How do you know they are the real deal? |
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: When speaking with a foreigner from a particular school. |
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bobbybigfoot wrote: |
1 How do you know it's legit? How do you know that person IS REALLY working at that school? Are people here finding out the phone numbers of the school, then calling back at another time and asking to speak to that foreigner, just to make sure they are actually at that school?
2 How many recruiters/schools out there use paid shills to tell prospects whatever they want to hear?
3 Also, companies are offering email addresses of foreigners as references. But again, how do you know who is actually replying?
Same goes with photos? How do you know they are the real deal? |
1. you won't completely know till you get to the school. Try to talk to more than one teacher tho. Most likely the director will put you on the line with the biggest kissa$$ he has.
2. I'd say this rarely, if ever, happens. Koreans just don't plan things that well.
3. You can tell if someone isn't a native speaker. They will make small telltale grammar mistakes. "Kim's Academy is very good school."
It's good to do your due dillagence, but don't get paranoid. |
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alabamaman
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: |
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You never know who you're talking to on the other end. So, ask all the "tough" questions.
Talk to MORE THAN ONE of the foreign staff and ask POINTED AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (*when the boss is NOT listening over their shoulder)
1) What are the hours? (start time / stop time / breaks).
2) How many classes per day, week, month? NOT hour many hours per month. 30 classroom hours can mean anything from 1350 -1800 minutes per week standing in front of the class. The difference can be up to 7.5 HOURS in front of the class EACH WEEK.
3) Do they ALWAYS pay on time?
4) Do they pay at the end of your month or do they have a hold back period (5-10 days after your month end) to prevent runners? (no=red flag 1)
5) Do they really pay overtime or avoid it with creative book keeping?
6) Do you get credit for classes on the national holidays or do you get the day off but still have to work your 120 hours before you get overtime? (no=red flag 2)
7) Do they have national medical (with the little booklet)? (no=red flag 3)
Do they pay into pension? (no=red flag 4)
9) What about the holidays? 10 or more WORKING days? (legal requirement here) (no=red flag 5)
10) When and how do you get your holidays?
11) What extra stuff do you really have to do - mentioned or not in the contract.
12) Then consider the quality of life issues - things that are important to you that aren't mentioned here (housing, furnishings, THE BATHROOM, access to recreational facilities, shopping, banking).
13 Do they take additional deposits in addition to the delay in payday? (yes=red flag 6) |
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