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Explaining things and hand gestures in Korea

 
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Explaining things and hand gestures in Korea Reply with quote

A friend of mine claims that he had less trouble in other countries using hand gestures to explain what he wanted in China and other countries where he didn't speak the language without a problem. He said it is not the same in Korea. I would like him to be wrong, but I have had the same experience. Also, if your pronunciation is slightly off, they won't register in many cases what you're saying. It seems very common. Are those ways of communicating, in terms of using hand gestures (I don't mean swearing), alien to Korean culture. I have no clue. I am not Korean, but things I would have done in other countries don't seem to work very well here. I'm beginning to think using your hands for communication is not part of this culture.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had a serious problem with hand gestures other than the "come here" one.

Chinese seems like a tougher language in terms of pronunciation because if you emphasise the wrong words it messes up the sentence completely.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, one day I walked by one of my classes and I stuck out my tongue and pulled down the skin right under my right eye with my index finger. I've seen this expression on people and cartoons.

Well, I do it as I'm walking by. Next thing I know, like 2 or 3 elementary kids run out of the classroom and start yelling obscenities at me. Of course, I had to put them in their place.

How bad is that expression? I thought it was just like sticking your tongue out at someone. Kind of a "nanana naaa naa" action thats a little mocking but not offensive.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Explaining things and hand gestures in Korea Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
A friend of mine claims that he had less trouble in other countries using hand gestures to explain what he wanted in China and other countries where he didn't speak the language without a problem. He said it is not the same in Korea. I would like him to be wrong, but I have had the same experience. Also, if your pronunciation is slightly off, they won't register in many cases what you're saying. It seems very common. Are those ways of communicating, in terms of using hand gestures (I don't mean swearing), alien to Korean culture. I have no clue. I am not Korean, but things I would have done in other countries don't seem to work very well here. I'm beginning to think using your hands for communication is not part of this culture.


Two things, from my pov:

1. I use and see others using hand gestures constantly in Korea, especially amongst native speakers of Korean. Tons and tons of gesturing goes on. Sometimes I wonder if it's because Korean is such an ambiguous language.

2. The pronunciation being slightly off thing is largely a misconception. By way of example, look at drunk fellas, or old folks. Their pronunciation is most definitely more than slightly off. In my experience, it's more often a matter of the speaker having bad grammar, no confidence (declarative comes off as a question if you aren't sure about it), or poor word choice. Or all the above.



I have not traveled a lot, so I can't compare to other cultures. This is just what I've experienced in Korea.
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this may be because Cantonese, Mandarin, Vietnames, Khmer, Lao, Tibetan, and I think Burmese, are all tonal languages. So saying the same with with different rising and falling tones gives it different meanings.

I have a real problem learning words in all those languages, and am finding Korean and have found Hindi (both non-tonal, like English) much easier.

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Joined: 15 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The second best laugh I've gotten in Korea came after a particularly vile lunch at my high school. I felt the stirring and rumbling and, being experienced, headed for the canteen to buy some bumwad. Bad luck. The young girl who could speak a little English was off that day. It was Grandmother behind the counter. probably pushing 165 years old and just a sweet old woman. There was no paper in sight I could point at.
"Toilet paper?" I asked.
"Moolah"
I then made the unrolling hand motion and thee reacharound verticle swipe! She laughd so hard she cried and gave me a pack for free!

The best laugh was at a bus stop. Wanting to fit in I hocked up a big loogie and spit it on the sidewalk. It just happened to hit a pigeon in the head. The pigeon fell over and went into some kind of seisure. An old man at the bus stop found this funnier than 11 hours of the 3 stooges!
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