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An English test in Korean?

 
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: An English test in Korean? Reply with quote

My public school has their tests on the 17th. I asked the teachers what they were doing for the English portion, and if they needed any help. They said, "oh they are all finished". I asked if I could see them she said "sure". I get a stack of papers and I am looking at them and say, "I want the English tests". She says, "those are the English tests"... WTF Shocked Ther is not one English word on it. Is this common in your schools?

I am politely raising my concerns about this, but I think they are falling on deaf ears.

Your thoughts?
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seoulman1



Joined: 02 Feb 2007
Location: Jamsil

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wtf didnt you know? English is now actually Korean..
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah... having a brainfart today...
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost



Joined: 28 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Classic. I'd rub that in their noses for at least 6 months.
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is why I suggested that I put a few questions on the test all in English. Much to my surprise they agreed. And now on all exams I have 5 or 6 questions all in English.

Many of the questions they write are in Korean but the answers are written in English. While the system isn't perfect. I can usually figure out the questions by the answers they have under the questions.

When I first started it was not always that way but as I have been here longer I have noticed more and more English on the tests. My five questions and all answers seem to be in English. So we are making headway in my Middle school.

If you are doing true co-teaching I think you will find them open to new ideas and writing exam questions in English. I also use the book for at least the dialogue lesson. If you are relevant to the curriculum you are more likely to be able to insert your questions in exams. It isn't always easy doing that but I can see improvements in the students...baby steps my friend baby steps.

Jade
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: An English test in Korean? Reply with quote

mehamrick wrote:
...Ther is not one English word on it. Is this common in your schools?

School English Classes: Quality of Teaching Appears to Be Diminishing
Editorial, Korea Times (June 7, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/opinion/200606/kt2006060717004354050.htm
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/news_view.asp?newsIdx=2901058
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English teaching at primary and secondary schools here appears to be diminishing. According to a recent survey, a growing number of Korean teachers of English conduct their classes in Korean only, contrary to efforts in creating an environment in which students can be better immersed in English....

The number of teachers using only English in class was 22.3 percent in 2003, but fell to 19.9 in 2004 and 17.6 last year. Meanwhile, the ratio of those using only Korean in class rose to 12.9 percent last year from 10.7 percent in 2004 and 9 percent in 2003.
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my 4th grade teachers to use English. Hell they put it all in English I had them add some Korean instructions. The 5th and 6th grade teachers will not budge though. All the questions I use are coming from the books that the kids have.. As much as I hate them.

I guess it's more frustrating knowing when I had a Spanish or German test there was no English on it.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: An English test in Korean? Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
mehamrick wrote:
...Ther is not one English word on it. Is this common in your schools?

School English Classes: Quality of Teaching Appears to Be Diminishing
Editorial, Korea Times (June 7, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/opinion/200606/kt2006060717004354050.htm
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/news_view.asp?newsIdx=2901058
Quote:
English teaching at primary and secondary schools here appears to be diminishing. According to a recent survey, a growing number of Korean teachers of English conduct their classes in Korean only, contrary to efforts in creating an environment in which students can be better immersed in English....

The number of teachers using only English in class was 22.3 percent in 2003, but fell to 19.9 in 2004 and 17.6 last year. Meanwhile, the ratio of those using only Korean in class rose to 12.9 percent last year from 10.7 percent in 2004 and 9 percent in 2003.


The Law of decreasing marginal returns applies to practically everything.
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think as long as they're using multiple-choice tests to judge English ability, they can write it in Khmer for all that matters.

Incidentally, I had a student last year who was an overseas returnee, educated in America, first year in a Korean school. He didn't get the highest mark in the class because in a couple of questions, he didn't quite understand the question that was written in Korean.
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jdenn



Joined: 21 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bosintang wrote:
I think as long as they're using multiple-choice tests to judge English ability, they can write it in Khmer for all that matters.

Incidentally, I had a student last year who was an overseas returnee, educated in America, first year in a Korean school. He didn't get the highest mark in the class because in a couple of questions, he didn't quite understand the question that was written in Korean.


Ha! reminds of my school. My director was bragging how he personally coached one of the (particularly dull) kids, and he got a 98 on his English exam. He walked into today, and I said "Hi, how are you today?" He turned the director with an absolutely baffled expression. The conversation went downhill from there.
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