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Anyone get the latest EPIK / NIIED newsletter?

 
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Anyone get the latest EPIK / NIIED newsletter? Reply with quote

So far as I know I'm not part of EPIK - I was hired directly by my school district after being interviewed at my present school two years ago. Today I saw a newsletter that was 90% Hanguel but also contained a one-page letter for the 'Native English Assistant Teachers'. Now that's a great way to start off ... I teach about 1/2 my classes solo and for the others use a KET as my assistant teacher.

At any rate it provides a contact number in case I have a problem I can't resolve with my school or POE. I've never heard of any POE I work under, as I work within a county (군) school district. Then they get into the heart of the matter: their recruiting plan. 'We hope you will assist in introducing our recruiting plan for March 2008 to your acquaintances' it reads.

Yeah, I'm going to introduce it to my aquaintances in Korea by telling them to avoid EPIK and get hired directly by a school, not through them. Besides, what experienced teacher wants a job as an 'English assistant teacher'? (to say nothing of not being able to choose one's workplace). And who the hell wants to work under their style of red tape?

I can only hope that EPIK isn't actually in the process of getting their grubby hands on my job or I'll probably be off to a uni asap.
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be very wrong on this but I think you might have been grandfathered in.. when EPIK took over all the districts. It falls somwehere with the Provincial board of education.. The school might have hired you but they are getting your money from them and they get that from the government.

Again I could be wrong...
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone get the latest EPIK / NIIED newsletter? Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
So far as I know I'm not part of EPIK - I was hired directly by my school district after being interviewed at my present school two years ago. Today I saw a newsletter that was 90% Hanguel but also contained a one-page letter for the 'Native English Assistant Teachers'. Now that's a great way to start off ... I teach about 1/2 my classes solo and for the others use a KET as my assistant teacher.

At any rate it provides a contact number in case I have a problem I can't resolve with my school or POE. I've never heard of any POE I work under, as I work within a county (군) school district. Then they get into the heart of the matter: their recruiting plan. 'We hope you will assist in introducing our recruiting plan for March 2008 to your acquaintances' it reads.

Yeah, I'm going to introduce it to my aquaintances in Korea by telling them to avoid EPIK and get hired directly by a school, not through them. Besides, what experienced teacher wants a job as an 'English assistant teacher'? (to say nothing of not being able to choose one's workplace). And who the hell wants to work under their style of red tape?

I can only hope that EPIK isn't actually in the process of getting their grubby hands on my job or I'll probably be off to a uni asap.


Officially, we're hired as an assistant teacher, but of course the reality is the opposite - we're almost always the main teacher and the KET - at best - assists.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone get the latest EPIK / NIIED newsletter? Reply with quote

butlerian wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
So far as I know I'm not part of EPIK - I was hired directly by my school district after being interviewed at my present school two years ago. Today I saw a newsletter that was 90% Hanguel but also contained a one-page letter for the 'Native English Assistant Teachers'. Now that's a great way to start off ... I teach about 1/2 my classes solo and for the others use a KET as my assistant teacher.

At any rate it provides a contact number in case I have a problem I can't resolve with my school or POE. I've never heard of any POE I work under, as I work within a county (군) school district. Then they get into the heart of the matter: their recruiting plan. 'We hope you will assist in introducing our recruiting plan for March 2008 to your acquaintances' it reads.

Yeah, I'm going to introduce it to my aquaintances in Korea by telling them to avoid EPIK and get hired directly by a school, not through them. Besides, what experienced teacher wants a job as an 'English assistant teacher'? (to say nothing of not being able to choose one's workplace). And who the hell wants to work under their style of red tape?

I can only hope that EPIK isn't actually in the process of getting their grubby hands on my job or I'll probably be off to a uni asap.


Officially, we're hired as an assistant teacher, but of course the reality is the opposite - we're almost always the main teacher and the KET - at best - assists.


It's interesting that my previous two contracts have referred to me as a 'Foreign Language Teacher' (외국인 교원), seperate from a 'Foreign Language Instructor', which is what teachers at my district's English camp get called. We'll see if anything changes this year. My contract's up at the end of July and I still haven't seen a new one.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone get the latest EPIK / NIIED newsletter? Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
butlerian wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
So far as I know I'm not part of EPIK - I was hired directly by my school district after being interviewed at my present school two years ago. Today I saw a newsletter that was 90% Hanguel but also contained a one-page letter for the 'Native English Assistant Teachers'. Now that's a great way to start off ... I teach about 1/2 my classes solo and for the others use a KET as my assistant teacher.

At any rate it provides a contact number in case I have a problem I can't resolve with my school or POE. I've never heard of any POE I work under, as I work within a county (군) school district. Then they get into the heart of the matter: their recruiting plan. 'We hope you will assist in introducing our recruiting plan for March 2008 to your acquaintances' it reads.

Yeah, I'm going to introduce it to my aquaintances in Korea by telling them to avoid EPIK and get hired directly by a school, not through them. Besides, what experienced teacher wants a job as an 'English assistant teacher'? (to say nothing of not being able to choose one's workplace). And who the hell wants to work under their style of red tape?

I can only hope that EPIK isn't actually in the process of getting their grubby hands on my job or I'll probably be off to a uni asap.


Officially, we're hired as an assistant teacher, but of course the reality is the opposite - we're almost always the main teacher and the KET - at best - assists.


It's interesting that my previous two contracts have referred to me as a 'Foreign Language Teacher' (외국인 교원), seperate from a 'Foreign Language Instructor', which is what teachers at my district's English camp get called. We'll see if anything changes this year. My contract's up at the end of July and I still haven't seen a new one.


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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As my favorite teacher used to say

"There's 'a rat' in separate."

I still have to repeat that to myself sometimes to remember.

On to the topic, yeah i got the EPIK newsletter last month in my email, even though i was hired by my school. My contract looks nothing (thank god) like EPIK either. My funding comes from a local nuclear plant. It sounds like the same BS email you got though. EPIK is great. Get your friends involved. blahblahblah
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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that, "sell your friends and after you land them in the ROK we'll give you 100k per soul, letter one month ago.

How much does Epik as a recruiter get for each sucker?

I wonder how the racket works if a school directly hires or are they being screwed too into using their budget funding. Does Epik automatically applies for the recruitment subsidy?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're just telling us yet one more time that you have a good job?

Keep saying it. Keep saying it. That's the ticket.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fusionbarnone wrote:
I saw that, "sell your friends and after you land them in the ROK we'll give you 100k per soul, letter one month ago.

How much does Epik as a recruiter get for each sucker?

I wonder how the racket works if a school directly hires or are they being screwed too into using their budget funding. Does Epik automatically applies for the recruitment subsidy?


I read that as, "We'll pay 100kwon for the right to blame you for
everything that person does or we think they did or we think they
might do."
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like my EPIK job. EPIK is simply a way for the schools to get money.
Your treatment depends on the individual schools not the EPIK program.
I'm hoping the new changes in EPIK will bring the not so good schools
in line with the better schools.
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The_Conservative



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if the guy pulls a runner, you probably have to return the money as well. Not worth all the headaches..not for 100,000 won.
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

100,000 won is a joke. It's definitely not worth the headaches.

OP: I was not hired as part of EPIK, but I received that newsletter a month or so ago.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
So you're just telling us yet one more time that you have a good job?

Keep saying it. Keep saying it. That's the ticket.


Yes and that I don't want EPIK to screw it up in any way, shape, or form. As someone who works at a hagwon that must be in the top of the top 1% in Korea, you can surely relate to the feeling of wanting to hold on to a good gig. Wink
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