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lastat06513



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: A friend of mine is leave...... Reply with quote

A canadian friend of mine, who has been in Korea continuously since 2002, who even outlived my stay there, is now considering leaving Korea this summer to go back to Canada.
If he leaves, he would be giving up his permanent residency, which was a hard-fought battle for him to get.
When he came to Korea, he was very bright-eyed with alot of expectations about living there. Within 8 months of coming to Korea, he got married to a really nice k-woman, got an apartment and within the last few years got a car, which he uses to travel to his public school job in the countryside.
When I look back, I found his life to be more stable than what I had in Korea, and I found it confusing that he would give it all up to go to an unknown situation back "home".

He said, the most important reason he wants to leave is that, considering the time he has been in Korea, he feels he is still treated like a newbie coming to Korea. and that he is tired of being treated like a second-class citizen in a country he has called his home for about 5 years of his life.

I would like to come back to Korea and I plan on going back after I finish everything I have to do here (everything completely done by the summer of 2010-modified date)....anyway.....

What is it that forces alot of good people to leave Korea?
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ChuckECheese



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number one reason has to be the screwing by Korean bosses.

And E2 visa status which forces sense of slavery.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He doesn't have permanent residency, as a foreign man married to a Korean woman. He has an F-2-1 visa. That's why he feels second-class. He is.
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last,

Can you clarify for us what visa he's on? Just curious....
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
He doesn't have permanent residency, as a foreign man married to a Korean woman. He has an F-2-1 visa. That's why he feels second-class. He is.


You forgot that peopel who've been on F2-1 for over 2 years can now apply for an F5 - which is permanent residency...
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: A friend of mine is leave...... Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
...he feels he is still treated like a newbie coming to Korea. and that he is tired of being treated like a second-class citizen in a country he has called his home for about 5 years of his life....

I heard about that kind of experience when researching before I came here in 2002 myself.

We are not citizens, we're temporary or semi-permanent guests residing in their country. That's the way it is. Realizing that, one can adjust one's expectations and appreciate the situation for what it is, with as many pluses as minuses, us being treated like guests in a way we never are at home (generosity, helpfulness, free service, etc).

Take it for what it is. Expecting Koreans to embrace caucasians as being Koreans is a delusion. He didn't examine and adjust his assumptions and as a result was disappointed about something he could have known about before he ever came here.

Some people learn from the examples of others, some need to learn through experiencing it themselves.
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Miles Rationis



Joined: 08 May 2007
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: A friend of mine is leave...... Reply with quote

[quote="lastat06513"]A canadian friend of mine, who has been in Korea continuously since 2002, who even outlived my stay there, is now considering leaving Korea this summer to go back to Canada.
If he leaves, he would be giving up his permanent residency, which was a hard-fought battle for him to get.
When he came to Korea, he was very bright-eyed with alot of expectations about living there. Within 8 months of coming to Korea, he got married to a really nice k-woman, got an apartment and within the last few years got a car, which he uses to travel to his public school job in the countryside.
When I look back, I found his life to be more stable than what I had in Korea, and I found it confusing that he would give it all up to go to an unknown situation back "home".

He said, the most important reason he wants to leave is that, considering the time he has been in Korea, he feels he is still treated like a newbie coming to Korea. and that he is tired of being treated like a second-class citizen in a country he has called his home for about 5 years of his life.

I would like to come back to Korea and I plan on going back after I finish everything I have to do here (everything completely done by the summer of 2010-modified date)....anyway.....

What is it that forces alot of good people to leave Korea?[/
quote]

Because they realise there are better places in the world...there are only two good things about Korea: food and money...
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

You forgot that peopel who've been on F2-1 for over 2 years can now apply for an F5 - which is permanent residency...


Foreign men can do this or just foreign women?
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
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You forgot that peopel who've been on F2-1 for over 2 years can now apply for an F5 - which is permanent residency...


Foreign men can do this or just foreign women?


Anyone with an F2-1 for over 2 years can apply.

Quite a lot of men who use this board have got one.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm. Well, hell. Now how am I going to bash Korea?
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
Hm. Well, hell. Now how am I going to bash Korea?


You will find a way, I am sure.

Back to the OP: I asked my husband who told me that if your friend comes back once a year to Korea for, say, a month or so, apparently he won't lose his permanent, F5 status.

He is no immi official or lawyer, but apparently that's what they told him when immi gave me mine, cos he asked about it (we plan on moving back to the UK when Letty is a bit older).
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