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Alpha-Epsilon



Joined: 24 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: You're Selling Yourself Out Reply with quote

You're still there. I know. It's another post for you to peak at, to glimpse outside your windowless conscience, to see if there's an answer.

There isn't, here in Korea, since you're now nowhere. You think you are, sounding so smooth. Those that thrum the keyboard here in hopes they'll make a louder sound are often the most lost, and hurt. They're thrumming their fingers now in anticipation, that Korea will offer them hope.

But this is false hope, as they crack their knuckles, and turn another page there, living day by day.

It's false because you're selling yourself out. You're not the Westerner you used to be, that self-sufficient, independent, do-it-on your own and stand-up-for yourself type of guy. Therefore, you've joined the crowd. Never mind freedom, or integrity , or right and wrong, ie., demeaning your country, despising your president, disgracing your parents. What matters now is conforming.

You're conforming to an ideology. It supersedes family roots, honor, political sense, and democracy, because you've become as nonsensical about the world at large as the Koreans. Hate surrounds you.

Join the bandwagon and Bush-bash. Be them. Be nothing without an enemy. Be an enigma. Sell yourself and your country.

Then return home empty.
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Avram Iancu



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it is called having an intrinsically different experience, and making of your own life something that most people here (unlike yourself) are, namely, a unique individual, and this is but one part of a greater whole (although not the same kind of 'hole' you would be familiar with, as in, "Shut your pie ____"....you sad sac (sic)...
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PimpofKorea



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avram Iancu wrote:
No, it is called having an intrinsically different experience, and making of your own life something that most people here (unlike yourself) are, namely, a unique individual, and this is but one part of a greater whole (although not the same kind of 'hole' you would be familiar with, as in, "Shut your pie ____"....you sad sac (sic)...


Its called having balls across the nose.....
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Join the bandwagon and Bush-bash


Not me. I'm as pro-Bush as anyone on this board, but we gotta move on to the next election. We've gotta elect a President who'll FINISH the job in the Middle East. It's all about making the world safe for people who love freedom.

Also, remember this- for all of their whining, very few teachers on this board actually vote.

Does that answer your question, OP?


Last edited by wylies99 on Wed May 16, 2007 8:01 am; edited 1 time in total
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PimpofKorea



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
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Join the bandwagon and Bush-bash


Not me. I'm as pro-Bush as anyone on this board, but we gotta move on to the next election. We've gotta elect a President who'll clear the scum out of those Afghanistan caves and then pound Iran and Syria. It's all about making the world safe for people who love freedom.

Does that answer your question, OP?


Turn that area of the world into the world's biggest amusement park I say....
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pimp- I edited my comments. Don't want to scare the kiddies. Laughing

Maybe I should have just left it alone. I don't know if the OP's comments actually deserve serious political discussion, anyway. Laughing
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PimpofKorea



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Pimp- I edited my comments. Don't want to scare the kiddies. Laughing


AHHH....but where's the fun in that.........getting under the skin of an artfagg esler...is one duty I do with honor Smile
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PimpofKorea



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Pimp- I edited my comments. Don't want to scare the kiddies. Laughing


AHHH....but where's the fun in that.........getting under the skin of an artfagg esler...is one duty I do with honor Smile
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:


Also, remember this- for all of their whining, very few teachers on this board actually vote.

Does that answer your question, OP?


That is so not true. I never missed a single vote in all my years in Korea. In 12 years overseas I missed once-- the Chinese post never delivered the envelope, but it was only for a school bond issue. Most of the people I know in Korea are voting absentee. I guess it just depends on what kind of people they were before they went to Korea-- those who thought that politics meant something and that they had a right/duty/responsibility in relation to choosing elected officials and approving or not other electoral issues have continued to do so while overseas. Don't make assumptions just because the people YOU hang around were never more than armchair critics.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the US very few people actually vote. The OP was posting about Americans. At least I think... Laughing
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polonius



Joined: 05 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought this post was about feeling like you are a number in a system. And to the OP, I would guess that you have always felt that way, simply based on you Pseudonym. You think that you are part of a society or group that has a specific job in life. Regardless of where you are in the world, or what you are doing.

What you fail to see is that a lot of people get enjoyment from what they are doing here in Korea, perhaps moreso than they would having a cubicle job, and simply typing digits or letters into a computer. Many of us teaching here interact with our students and coworkers. We are not part of a crowd or a unit without methods of improving our situation. I, and I believe many others here continue to better themselves on a daily basis so that we are not considered conformists.

You claim that we are lost or hurt, but I think quite the contrary. We are not tied to anything. If we were back in the west, we would have to put Tab A into slot B. I have never felt more free in my life. I have complete independence over what and how I choose to live my life. If I were back at home, I am certain that there would be more economical constraints placed on me, that I would feel that my independence was shrowed by a vail of a Pavlovian manner.

It is too bad you feel this way, but, I know that for those of us that have been in Korea for multiple years do not feel this way.

And although I would like to give my 2 cents about George W., I will restrain, because I don't think that was the main idea of this thread.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: You're Selling Yourself Out Reply with quote

Alpha-Epsilon wrote:
You're still there... I know...to see if there's an answer.

There isn't, here in Korea, since you're now nowhere. You think you are...but this is false hope, 'living' day by day.

It's false because you're selling yourself out...you've joined the crowd, conforming to an ideology which supersedes the world at large, hate surrounds you.

Join the bandwagon and Bush-bash. Sell yourself and your country.

Then return home empty.


Read by Twighlight Zone's Rod Serling this would be quite funny. "Joe Esl'er didn't know what to do after finishing college except pay his student loan. Like many good ex-students he ended up in Korea only to find... (tinkling, zooming in and out, eerie Twilight Zone music here...CRASHING, more DRAMATIC music here, back to voice...)...communications from some disgruntled, distant soul from another dimension, Alpha Epsilon in THE TWILIGHT ZONE.

Also, 'The Manchurian Candidate'.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: You're Selling Yourself Out Reply with quote

Alpha-Epsilon wrote:
Join the bandwagon and Bush-bash. Be them. Be nothing without an enemy. Be an enigma. Sell yourself and your country.

Well, I'm convinced... I say Americans give Bush eight more years to continue to run their country into the ground.
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG You're right!







I hadn't realized before, but your post enlightened me to the stark truth.








<goes and kills himself>
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're wrong.

Korea is a sad little country with a self denialist, reppressive, stagnant culture.

This much is true imo.

Yet that doesn't mean I have changed as a person in any negative way.

I have become tougher, because it makes you tough putting up with the sh*t you have to just to work here on a daily basis.

I have come to appreciate my own country and culture one HELL of a lot more through being here.

Yeah, I'm here just for the money. It's true. I don't like work in general and here I can save twice as much as I could back home and work less hours and have an apt to myself. Then I can quit working for two whole years in order to follow my own pursuits living on my savings. I have a decent social life with other Westerners and a good lifestyle here.

I do not let the b@stards drag me down and remain true to myself and have the same sense of self that I had when I came here and I'd even say the unusual nature and toughness of my work related experiences here have made me a stronger person with a much broader outlook on life.

Not all of us become apologist, lost, patronised wanna be Koreans who are secretly mocked by the people whose esteem they favor...!

I'm milking this place for the cash and easy lifestyle, a smart cow grazing where the grazing is good, pure and simple.
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