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charlieDD
Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea
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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: Game writer creates a VT-massacre-based game |
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Have you heard anything about this? It is apparently called "V-Tech Rampage" . . with English errors in its scripting. Apparently the player is Cho and he goes through all the events of that horrible morning at VT - including making it to the post office to post the video - - without being caught by the police before accomplishing the mission. SICK !
Anyone got something more on this?
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Kyrei
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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The real question is.. where have you heard about it? I just navered "조승희 게임" and found nothing.  |
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charlieDD
Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| doggyji wrote: |
| The real question is.. where have you heard about it? I just navered "조승희 게임" and found nothing. |
I heard about from a Korean here in the states. He says it's "going around" in Korea. He's worried it's going to embarrass Korea again.
I just did a Yahoo search on it after my original post and got this, but it doesn't attribute it specifically to a Korean source:
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/05/14/152155.php
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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V-TECH RAMPAGE
http://googumproduce.com/vtech.php
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| The real question is.. where have you heard about it? Did you have a bad dream? I just navered "조승희 게임" and found nothing. |
V-Tech Rampage Flash Based Video Game Released
Written by Matt Paprocki (May 14, 2007)
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/05/14/152155.php
Virginia Tech Travesty In Crappy Flash Form
http://kotaku.com/gaming/oddities/virginia-tech-travesty-in-crappy-flash-form-260091.php
V-Tech Rampage Author Wants Money To Pull Game
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| The author, an Australian by the name of Ryan Lambourn, has posted a message on his GooGumProduce website claiming that if he receives $1,000 in donations, he will remove the game from Newgrounds; for $2,000, he will remove the game from his own site; and if he receives $3,000, he will apologize for the whole mess. A PayPal donation link is also provided. |
Andy Chalk posted on 15 May 2007
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/71775-V-Tech-Rampage-Author-Wants-Money-To-Pull-Game
V-Tech Rampage Creator Demands Payment to Remove Game
http://gamepolitics.com |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Offensive in the extreme. |
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Kyrei
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Ha! That was pretty funny. Good musical score though... |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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So there is such a game. Speechless.
| charlieDD wrote: |
| doggyji wrote: |
| The real question is.. where have you heard about it? I just navered "조승희 게임" and found nothing. |
I heard about from a Korean here in the states. He says it's "going around" in Korea. He's worried it's going to embarrass Korea again.
I just did a Yahoo search on it after my original post and got this, but it doesn't attribute it specifically to a Korean source:
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/05/14/152155.php |
I check a few major Korean portal sites everyday but haven't seen a hint of it. Apart from the moral issue, the game itself seems crappiest of the crappiest. I don't see any reason for it to "go around". |
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kingtout
Joined: 03 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I got a free extra order of Dweji Galbi from the waitress when I went out with my Korean pals. "Sorry for Birginia" she says. |
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charlieDD
Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| kingtout wrote: |
| I got a free extra order of Dweji Galbi from the waitress when I went out with my Korean pals. "Sorry for Birginia" she says. |
That was very thoughtful of her. Really. I mean that. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| charlieDD wrote: |
| doggyji wrote: |
| The real question is.. where have you heard about it? I just navered "조승희 게임" and found nothing. |
I heard about from a Korean here in the states. He says it's "going around" in Korea. He's worried it's going to embarrass Korea again.
I just did a Yahoo search on it after my original post and got this, but it doesn't attribute it specifically to a Korean source:
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/05/14/152155.php |
Aren't you in Korea? How did you hear about it from some "Korean here in the states"?
And since it is an ENGLISH game I doubt it is "going around" in Korea. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's just as tasteless as the American made Columbine shooting game.
http://www.columbinegame.com/ |
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charlieDD
Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
| charlieDD wrote: |
| doggyji wrote: |
| The real question is.. where have you heard about it? I just navered "조승희 게임" and found nothing. |
I heard about from a Korean here in the states. He says it's "going around" in Korea. He's worried it's going to embarrass Korea again.
I just did a Yahoo search on it after my original post and got this, but it doesn't attribute it specifically to a Korean source:
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/05/14/152155.php |
Aren't you in Korea? How did you hear about it from some "Korean here in the states"?
And since it is an ENGLISH game I doubt it is "going around" in Korea. |
Nope, been in the states for a number of months now. There's a Korean PhD student in my apartment building who, hearing that I once lived in Korea, hits me up for conversation when he sees me (usually while he's catching a smoke outside the entrance and I'm about to carry my bike in and he holds the door). He's a pretty down-to-earth type of guy whose been in the states now some eight years and has sort of "gone native." He told me about it. Don't know how he knew about it. And that is exactly what he said to me,that it is being "shared around". Maybe he got it emailed to him? He was genuinely worried about it. I'll ask him when I see him next. |
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jinju
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| The game is tasteless, yes. But what about the OP, typical anti Korean troll assuming a Korean wrote the game? |
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khyber
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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So I went to this googumprod. website and read through the comments.
Someone mentioned the SCMRPG (super columbine massacre RPG). The author of that game had this to say: <excuse the squiggles and mess>
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I just finished playing 멫Tech Rampage?and have some mixed thoughts.
1) There are elements of factual synthesis to the game. Creator Ryan Lambourn has a sense of humor (morbid, certainly - but not beyond the recognition of the guy who made Super Columbine Massacre RPG) that arises in the quips uttered by Cho and by police officers that apprehend him. The use of Cho뭩 identity as ??is found in the upstairs of Norris Hall and there are loose references to events as outlined in the media뭩 reports following the shooting. Also the use of Collective Soul (hardly the 밶ngry rock music?that one would imagine from a mass murderer) provides an interesting counterpoint to the game뭩 violence. Whether this was intentional on Ryan뭩 part or whether this was merely the result of Cho뭩 favorite song as reported by the press remains up for speculation.
2) It would appear to me that Ryan has no intention of doing much other than making money and gaining immediate recognition after the Virginia Tech shooting. Inevitably, comparisons between SCMRPG and VTech Rampage are being made right now. Some bloggers despise both games equally whereas others recognize a level of commentary that SCMRPG attempted which was not evident in VTR. For myself I wish to point out that SCMRPG was never a for-profit endeavor and thus I never posted statements like that which is on the VTR game뭩 homepage:
밒 will take this game down from newgrounds if the donation amount reaches $1000 US, i뭠l take it down from here if it reaches $2000 US, and i will apologize if it reaches $3000 US.?
This quote seems to indicate that Ryan has no intention of leaving the game up permanently or having a channel for discourse (as I have done) but instead has unfortunately chosen an artist뭩 statement that reads more like a hostage note. Following Ryan뭩 demand, would anyone accept an apology made after a $3000 collection check? I뭢 not sorry for making SCMRPG nor should Ryan be sorry for making VTR; to imply that his apologies can be purchased for a few thousand dollars truly cheapens whatever efforts he is attempting to make.
3) While many are bemoaning how the game industry should distance itself from homebrew games, I am torn as to whether I should distance myself and my game from Ryan and his. I wrote after the Virginia Tech shooting:
밪ocieties throughout history have dealt with pain, tragedy, and suffering with art in a multitude of forms and ours is no exception. There will be poems about this shooting, there will be books about it, films about it, paintings about it, and indeed I do not believe the medium of interactive electronic media should be excluded from exploring the sorrows and challenges of the human experience.?
Now I am forced to confront my own words by asking if the VTR game does ANY of what I outlined as the 밻xploration?of 뱒orrows and challenges of the human experience.?I would like to ask us to consider not whether a game about the Virginia Tech shooting SHOULD be made but how we might go about making a game that accomplishes more than VTR does with the subject matter. |
He makes some of what I consider to be valid points.
One thing that makes this particular game "more objectionable" than the scm game (for me anyways) is the attitude behind it's creator.
In a brilliant (  ) reply to this well thought out post, the author wrote:
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Danny, the donation thing is there as a joke against all the people commanding me to take my game down. I didnt think anyone would donate money to it and so far my paypal account has proven me right (BUT I COULD USE SOME FUCKING MONEY THANKS!).
And i'd appreciate if you didnt use the name "Ryan". That name is reserved for my close friends and family... i cant help the people that gleaned personal information from my website but i would hope you would have the courtesy to not disrespect me in such a manner on my own website...Danny. |
There are two things I feel I need to say to this reply:
1) Obviously the "donation thing" is NOT a joke as he claims. He's linked his pay pal account; he obviously wants money. It may be a "joke" as he claimed but would he have returned the money had someone given it? nah..
2) What makes this post odd is that he feels someone using is GIVEN NAME, is "disrespectful" and discourteous.
Given names are not "Reserved for close friends and family", they're identifiers so people could come and find that dude and beat the crap out of him. I mean, if you are going to make something as possibly objectionable as that, you should have the guts to put your actual name on it. Otherwise, you're nothing more than a coward.
It sounds like these loners and losers need to step away from their computer screen and learn how to interact with women.
ps (edit)...later down the board, I found this great quote from the SCM game:
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I quickly found out Internet anonymity is a thin veil and ultimately useless to someone who wants to make a statement. You, Ryan Lambourn, created "VTech Rampage." I, Danny Ledonne, created "Super Columbine Massacre RPG!" We are not aliases or anonymous figures in cyberspace. We are real people with real responsibilities. The very best thing you can do, as I have done, is to OWN your work. Defend it. Fight for its right to exist and articulate the importance you believe it has. If you cannot do that, your work has no place online or elsewhere and you don't have the conviction to stand behind it. You will never be universally appreciated - nor am I - but unless you can command genuine authorship of your work, it will hold virtually no validity in the eyes of any portion of your audience.
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seems a fairly articular bloke. |
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