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shetan

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Location: In front of my PC.
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: Uni Class: No Credit = No students? |
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I teach two classes at University which are optional classes. i.e. no credit for completion.
1. English conversation class 200,000 won per semester (20 students)
2. Free Resume and Interview Workshop class. (Monthly) (10 Students)
Every time my students slowly dwindle away until maybe only 2-4 students are attending classes regularly.
My boss thinks maybe its because of me.. I interview my students and get them to fill out class reviews...they all same I am good teacher and they enjoy the class.... but same thing happens every time..
Please help me... does anyone else have no-credit classes and low attendance or do you all have high attendance..
any feedback is really appreciated as well as any advice...
Thanks.....
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JD1982
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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An opitional class in university for no credit.
I'd say screw it and let's go party. Why bother?
It's definitely not your fault. |
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jazblanc77

Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Start forging the attendance sheet. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Would you have gone to such a thing while at uni? I'm guess less than 10% would answer "yes", no doubt because they had a real interest in the subject. Judging by that assumption, your student attendance record is excellent. Congratualations: you good teacha. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: Re: No Credit = No students? |
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shetan wrote: |
Please help me... does anyone else have no-credit classes and low attendance or do you all have high attendance.. |
It happens in the adult hagwons, too. If there's no credit or ther's no grading, where is the incentive to keep going? Skipping a class has no penalty or repurcussions... by the end of the month, students get lazy or bored or busy and this is one thing they can ditch without worrying about failing. |
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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Same thing here. I've been teaching a morning class at the uni I'm at for about 3 years. At the start of the year there's about 10-15 students. By the end of the year there's 2-5. It's the same everywhere.
They already paid their money...the uni isn't losing money...who cares. Enjoy your free paid time. |
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shetan

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Location: In front of my PC.
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your responses.... at least I dont feel so bad now...
I am thinking of printing a certificate of Completion.... nothing too formal... just something to put in there resume... maybe it will help
thanks.... |
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DCJames

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Uni Class: No Credit = No students? |
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shetan wrote: |
My boss thinks maybe its because of me.. I interview my students and get them to fill out class reviews...they all same I am good teacher and they enjoy the class.... but same thing happens every time..
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Isn't this pretty much the WORST thing about working at a hogwon? |
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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good tip - for this kind of class keep it fun - no politics/social stuff. just find some good group discussion topics with a focus on form. also, try and play the guys and girls off each other - the sexual tension can often keep them coming back. try to take the class out for drinks at the beginning of the month too so they feel more personable towards you.
None of my uni adults classes are graded but they keep coming back for more, so now the students complain that my class is overbooked! |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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"Head of a dragon, tail of a snake." Koreans are famous for starting strong and finishing weak (if at all), and they readily acknowledge this about themselves.
Tell your boss about that expression. It'll help you out. |
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shetan

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Location: In front of my PC.
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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I�m thinking, mark 80% of students attended the class and everybody�s happy
As long as the boss doesn't find out haha!
Actually I�m not sure he really cares that much� I think I�m the token white guy, gracing the website for P.R. and Marketing!
However the paying students I worry about.. I want them to get their value for money... part time jobs pay about 3000 won per hour, so for them its a lot of money...
Maybe I should bring soju and Ramyon to class!!! |
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Kyrei

Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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I teach credit classes that are required and the attrition rate is apalling. Once class started at 42 and is now down to 12. Student apathy, assigning homework, and actually expecting them to earn their grade with real work makes my life easier. The school is not worried, as long as the students don't complain. The only complaint they can make is that they are too lazy to complete the course so no worries.
As for the OP, don't sweat it. If the school is making its money then they won't care much. I would never have even signed up for such a course in Uni... beer was a higher priority. |
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