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WHERE'S THE BEEF? Any USDA spotted outside Seoul yet?
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: WHERE'S THE BEEF? Any USDA spotted outside Seoul yet? Reply with quote

I know more than 6 tons arrived recently. Prime USDA. Angus and from Kansas. Can't do better.

Haven't seen any in my big city outside Seoul.
Heck, even Costco is still selling only Australian and HomePlus the usual overpriced Korean crap.

Anyone spot the real McMoo yet?

"Inquiring carnivores want to know."
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Scaggs



Joined: 19 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: eww Reply with quote

I am sad that US beef will be coming here. I'll pass on the beef-fed cattle, thanks.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! Where's the great American beef? It's the best, BABY! Very Happy
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer the stuff from Oz.
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Guri Guy



Joined: 07 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Argentine beef is the best in the world. It blows away all of it's competitors. It's a shame you can't get it in Korea. ㅠㅠ

I suppose one can always get it online. Low in fat and grassfed. Much healthier than the crap you get elsewhere.

http://www.pampasplains.com/
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Yeah! Where's the great American beef? It's the best, BABY! Very Happy


I heard that!

Only problem is that Koreans don't know how to cut them like the way we like our steak. Rolling Eyes
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
Argentine beef is the best in the world. It blows away all of it's competitors. It's a shame you can't get it in Korea. ㅠㅠ



Word. American beef ... overrated.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
Guri Guy wrote:
Argentine beef is the best in the world. It blows away all of it's competitors. It's a shame you can't get it in Korea. ㅠㅠ



Word. American beef ... overrated.


Japanese Kobe Beef the best in the world, Hands down, nothing comes close.
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europe2seoul



Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
indytrucks wrote:
Guri Guy wrote:
Argentine beef is the best in the world. It blows away all of it's competitors. It's a shame you can't get it in Korea. ??



Word. American beef ... overrated.


Japanese Kobe Beef the best in the world, Hands down, nothing comes close.


Get your facts straight: Matsusaka beef is way over Kobe beef.
Also, most Japanese cuts are considered too fat in west.

And I wouldn't mind Argentinian beef (steak) at all.
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost



Joined: 28 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big, thick steaks cut from the flesh of Korean cows taste pretty good to me, same as Texas Angus, to me cow is cow. What continues to worry me about American cows is that they are fed American cows -- still, even in this day of mad cow disease. Why do they do that?? They pretend that they stopped it, but they continue to feed chickens cow and then feed cows whatever falls through the bottom of the chicken coop -- yummy!

Korean meat will do me fine. I hear Argentinean meat is too lean to make a good cooked steak. Probably nonesense.
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucky me, this thread's not even a page in length yet and already it's devolved into some kind of bragging rights without anyone actually answering the question. Welcome to Dave's ESL Cafe.

I've had Kobe. Too much marbling although the flavor is wonderful. And considering how limited the production is and how expensive it is, it's not fair to compare it to any other beef. It's gourment beef. Anyone can take a few cattle and do that with the right technology. For range of selection of cuts, availability, and price, nothing beats American Black Angus.

I've had Australian beef of many varieties and it just doesn't compare. Sorry, Aussies.

Argentine beef is good and has its own flavor but to my taste buds the pampas premium is still a distant second. Then again, if you have it prepared in an Argentine dish with all the flavors, it doesn't really matter, does it?

Korean beef sucks period. Only good for use in Korean dishes.

My uncle was a butcher for 42 years. I know more than a little about beef.

You take a well-marbled, corn-fed USDA Prime Black Angus porterhouse steak lightly grilled or broiled medium rare with a dollop of A-1 Steaksauce and you don't need anything else to savor it.

NOW WHERE'S THE BEEF?
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richardlang



Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Joongang Daily said the recent shipments are to be distributed to restaurants. I think after a few months the beef will reach supermarkets.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No American KC strip steaks and fillet mignon yet.
I clearly see that Australian and Korean beef are very high quality lean meat as compared to much of what I ate in the States, but the beef here is so crazy expensive. Even chicken, pork, and salmon are very over priced too. Fruits and veggies are over priced as well in my opinion, but these high prices appear to be the result of rediculously competitive supply and demand conditions in Korea.

I would guess the high prices has to do with demand outstripping supply more so than nationalism, though nationalism is evident in the Korean economy. If you notice, there is less meat for sale in a city with hundreds of thousands of people than what would be for sale in an American town of 40,000 where rock bottom bargains are commonly found due to plentiful supply.

The idea with the FTA is that if bulk supply increases here, then prices will come down and it will improve Americas trade deficit while helping Korean families and individuals better afford living here.

I did see 2 American products show up recently; California oranges and Listerine mouthwash, though the mouthwash is made in Thailand as a result of American companies offshoring the jobs. The Listerine is way over priced and the oranges are the exact same high price as non-American oranges of 5000 won for 6 small oranges so I would not expect to see American beef to be any cheaper in the Korean market for several years, if ever. Nationalistic profit motives will keep prices as high as possible for as long as possible which is what largely fuels the Korean economy to do so well.
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not seen any American beef yet. In the past, American beef was considerably cheaper than Korean beef. I'm sure it will also be cheaper than Korean beef when it arrives. That is the whole point.

Fat content of beef depends on the cut. All beef has fat regardless of where it comes from. You can get lean or fatty cuts depending on your taste and your wallet. Generally good "marbelling" is a sign of quality beef. From my experience, Koreans tend to prefer fattier cuts of meat, maybe because they generally eat a low fat diet. As a kid, I could not imagine lean beef (in America). These days, with diets changing, there is plenty of lean meat in America.

Koreans mostly import cheap beef from the U.S. as it is its place in the market. The exception might be steak restaurants. But, in the supermarket, I would not expect choice cut steaks anytime soon. On the other hand, there will be cheaper beef alternatives available.

My question is how will American beef fare now that Australlian beef has taken its market share. My guess it will drive the price of American beef even cheaper in order to nudge the Australlian beef out. It could get very interesting!
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

richardlang wrote:

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The Joongang Daily said the recent shipments are to be distributed to restaurants. I think after a few months the beef will reach supermarkets.


Now that's sounds like a plausible explanation. Thanks for the tip. I suppose Outback is back selling American since it's actually a Florida chain?

sojourner1:

All true. Salmon here is only Atlantic coast and Norwegian second-rate pink. I did see fresh chinook at a Lotte's basement market that wasn't too expensive. HomePlus actually sells canned white salmon, the cheapest variety. But I'm spoiled: only Alaskan red sockeye salmon for me.

The meat market here is way overpriced. Even most import beef to China is cheaper.

I still think it's the lingering clout of the Korean beef farmers and seafood producers.

Unposter wrote:

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All beef has fat...


True, but the cheaper Korean cuts of sirloin have a lot of gristle and inedible fat. The less fat, the less flavor--within certain bounds.
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