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christopher1magelli



Joined: 20 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: For the grammar pros Reply with quote

Could someone help out with this and explain why? Thank you in advance!

Compare the sentences, and answer the questions.

a) Helen's mother has gone to bed.

b) She went to bed ten minutes ago.

c) Have you seen Odyssey 5?

d) Yes, I saw it last week.

1. Which sentences are in the simple past?

2. Which sentences in the present perfect?

3. Which sentences have a connection with the present?

4. Which sentences tell us only about the past?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: For the grammar pros Reply with quote

I'll take a stab at it:

1. b and d
2. a and c
3. a and c
4. b and d
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Sash



Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Location: farmland

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I am not trying to hijack your thread, but thought adding a q to it would be better than starting a new one.

I am correcting a student's paper and am stuck at these 2 sentences:
If one is to used to "going with the flow", one will inevitably begin to think of oneself as a part of the main group, rather than a seperate individual. Such an idea will subsequently lead to the loss of the ability to make independent, unbiased decisions, as well as the loss of one's sense of who one is and what one believes in.

Fix my correction:
If one is too used to fitting in and 'going with the flow', one will inevitably begin to think of himself as a part of the main group, rather than a separate individual. Such an idea will subsequently lead to the loss of the ability to make independent, unbiased decisions, as well as the loss of one's beliefs and sense of self.

Can/should I put 'he' in place of the second 'one'? Sorry, I haven't taken a grammar class since I was a sophomore in high school!
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Ekuboko



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Location: ex-Gyeonggi

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP reads like a pre-CELTA task.

Is it?
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Confused Canadian



Joined: 21 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sash wrote:

If one is to used to "going with the flow", one will inevitably begin to think of oneself as a part of the main group, rather than a seperate individual. Such an idea will subsequently lead to the loss of the ability to make independent, unbiased decisions, as well as the loss of one's sense of who one is and what one believes in.


I can only DREAM of correcting writing assignments like this. Rolling Eyes

Three months of trying to teach my college kids how to write a paragraph, and most of them still have NO idea what a topic sentence is, never mind how to write one. *SIGH*

Personally, I'd leave 'oneself' in the first sentence, correct the spelling of seperate (separate) and change 'the loss of the ability' to 'the inability'. Other than that, looks good to me.
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jmbran11



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not going to bother to explain the whole thing, but one short answer is that if a specific time is given, it's always the simple past. If it's the present perfect, it's something that happened in the recent past or at an indefinite time in the past. If you don't know the difference between the simple past and the present perfect, just grab any ESL grammar book and bone up. I assume they are using the distinction of "connection to the present" to refer to the present perfect and "only about the past" to refer to the simple past. I don't find that distinction particularly helpful, so I can't do a better job of explaining it.
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