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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: America's reputation is in tatters Reply with quote
But after Bush, recovery could be swift.

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The next US president will inherit a legacy of global mistrust.
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wannago



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This just in: Americans don't give a rat's ass what the British think of them.

Now, that's just my opinion, but that already makes it more relevant than anything from the Guardian.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hehe. You sound like you really don't care. Really really really!
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
wannago wrote:
This just in: Americans don't give a rat's ass what the British think of them.

Now, that's just my opinion, but that already makes it more relevant than anything from the Guardian.


Are you trying to miss the point, or do you just not understand the issues? And, do you truly claim to speak for over 300,000,000 Americans? Note to wanna: I'm American. You do not speak for me.

On a more appropriate note, the issue raised is important. A leader cannot lead if others will not follow. Further, a leader may lead by fear and intimidation, but it will always result in that leaders eventual downfall as resentment, anger, disgust, etc., build. Our relationships with the rest of the world ARE important and are ignored at our peril.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed.
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safeblad



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed.


to a degree, but never to such an extent in the developed world and amongst its allies.
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed.


Joo, for god's sake, say something useful...
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
safeblad wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed.


to a degree, but never to such an extent in the developed world and amongst its allies.


the US was resented enough that even though a war was being waged against the US it couldn't get any meaningful support against any of its enemies during the 1990s .Even after 9-11 the US didn't get any meaningful support from anyone except for Canada , England and Australia.
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safeblad



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
safeblad wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed.


to a degree, but never to such an extent in the developed world and amongst its allies.


the US was resented enough that even though a war was being waged against the US it couldn't get any meaningful support against any of its enemies during the 1990s .Even after 9-11 the US didn't get any meaningful support from anyone except for Canada , England and Australia.


you understand that when the US undertakes a humanitarian bombing without the help of its allies it doesnt necessarily count as a war right?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
safeblad wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
safeblad wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed.


to a degree, but never to such an extent in the developed world and amongst its allies.


the US was resented enough that even though a war was being waged against the US it couldn't get any meaningful support against any of its enemies during the 1990s .Even after 9-11 the US didn't get any meaningful support from anyone except for Canada , England and Australia.


you understand that when the US undertakes a humanitarian bombing without the help of its allies it doesnt necessarily count as a war right?


the US didn't get help against Iran or a few others during the 1990 either . Not talking about military action either.

Before the US took down Saddam the US could not get support for No fly zones, Smart Sanctions against Saddam , sanctions on Iran to force Iran to change behavior , declaring Hizzbollah a terror group, sanctions on Cuba , or even UN approval for hitting back against Afghanistan for 9-11.

The US couldn't even get help from anyone but England when it came to containing Saddam.

You would think the US would have gotten support for a least two of them.
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safeblad



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote