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Big_Bird
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wannago
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This just in: Americans don't give a rat's ass what the British think of them.
Now, that's just my opinion, but that already makes it more relevant than anything from the Guardian. |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Hehe. You sound like you really don't care. Really really really! |
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EFLtrainer
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| wannago wrote: |
This just in: Americans don't give a rat's ass what the British think of them.
Now, that's just my opinion, but that already makes it more relevant than anything from the Guardian. |
Are you trying to miss the point, or do you just not understand the issues? And, do you truly claim to speak for over 300,000,000 Americans? Note to wanna: I'm American. You do not speak for me.
On a more appropriate note, the issue raised is important. A leader cannot lead if others will not follow. Further, a leader may lead by fear and intimidation, but it will always result in that leaders eventual downfall as resentment, anger, disgust, etc., build. Our relationships with the rest of the world ARE important and are ignored at our peril. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed. |
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safeblad
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed. |
to a degree, but never to such an extent in the developed world and amongst its allies. |
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EFLtrainer
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed. |
Joo, for god's sake, say something useful... |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| safeblad wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed. |
to a degree, but never to such an extent in the developed world and amongst its allies. |
the US was resented enough that even though a war was being waged against the US it couldn't get any meaningful support against any of its enemies during the 1990s .Even after 9-11 the US didn't get any meaningful support from anyone except for Canada , England and Australia. |
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safeblad
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| safeblad wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed. |
to a degree, but never to such an extent in the developed world and amongst its allies. |
the US was resented enough that even though a war was being waged against the US it couldn't get any meaningful support against any of its enemies during the 1990s .Even after 9-11 the US didn't get any meaningful support from anyone except for Canada , England and Australia. |
you understand that when the US undertakes a humanitarian bombing without the help of its allies it doesnt necessarily count as a war right? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| safeblad wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| safeblad wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed. |
to a degree, but never to such an extent in the developed world and amongst its allies. |
the US was resented enough that even though a war was being waged against the US it couldn't get any meaningful support against any of its enemies during the 1990s .Even after 9-11 the US didn't get any meaningful support from anyone except for Canada , England and Australia. |
you understand that when the US undertakes a humanitarian bombing without the help of its allies it doesnt necessarily count as a war right? |
the US didn't get help against Iran or a few others during the 1990 either . Not talking about military action either.
Before the US took down Saddam the US could not get support for No fly zones, Smart Sanctions against Saddam , sanctions on Iran to force Iran to change behavior , declaring Hizzbollah a terror group, sanctions on Cuba , or even UN approval for hitting back against Afghanistan for 9-11.
The US couldn't even get help from anyone but England when it came to containing Saddam.
You would think the US would have gotten support for a least two of them. |
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safeblad
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| safeblad wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| safeblad wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed. |
to a degree, but never to such an extent in the developed world and amongst its allies. |
the US was resented enough that even though a war was being waged against the US it couldn't get any meaningful support against any of its enemies during the 1990s .Even after 9-11 the US didn't get any meaningful support from anyone except for Canada , England and Australia. |
you understand that when the US undertakes a humanitarian bombing without the help of its allies it doesnt necessarily count as a war right? |
the US didn't get help against Iran or a few others during the 1990 either . Not talking about military action either.
Before the US took down Saddam the US could not get support for No fly zones, Smart Sanctions against Saddam , sanctions on Iran to force Iran to change behavior , declaring Hizzbollah a terror group, sanctions on Cuba , or even UN approval for hitting back against Afghanistan for 9-11.
The US couldn't even get help from anyone but England when it came to containing Saddam.
You would think the US would have gotten support for a least two of them. |
damn, and now america's reputation really is in tatters  |
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EFLtrainer
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| safeblad wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| The US has been resented world wide since the Soviet Union failed. |
to a degree, but never to such an extent in the developed world and amongst its allies. |
the US was resented enough that even though a war was being waged against the US it couldn't get any meaningful support against any of its enemies during the 1990s .Even after 9-11 the US didn't get any meaningful support from anyone except for Canada , England and Australia. |
Joo, look up: correlation, spurious.
The US was hardly a pariah in the 90's. The Tech Boom was in fulls swing. We weren't blamed for '97, and Clinton was hugely popular abroad.
Try again, because the tripe you posted above is ridiculous. |
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demi
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| This just in: Americans don't give a rat's ass what the British think of them |
Oh they're so blind.  The 'we don't care attitude' will be their downfall. |
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mcgeezer
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| Before the US took down Saddam the US could not get support for No fly zones, Smart Sanctions against Saddam , sanctions on Iran to force Iran to change behavior , declaring Hizzbollah a terror group, sanctions on Cuba , or even UN approval for hitting back against Afghanistan for 9-11 |
Thats because "other countries" realized those were all stupid ideas generated by war mongering hawks in the U.S. government....I mean is Cuba REALLY a threat?? Not to mention the uselessness of sanctions...
Force Iran to change what behavior? Behavior as in bowing to the U.S. as a world leader? Get REal dude....Just because a nation disagrees with the U.S. does not make them a threat..... |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| Before the US took down Saddam the US could not get support for No fly zones, Smart Sanctions against Saddam , sanctions on Iran to force Iran to change behavior , declaring Hizzbollah a terror group, sanctions on Cuba , or even UN approval for hitting back against Afghanistan for 9-11 |
Thats because "other countries" realized those were all stupid ideas generated by war mongering hawks in the U.S. government....I mean is Cuba REALLY a threat?? Not to mention the uselessness of sanctions...
Force Iran to change what behavior? Behavior as in bowing to the U.S. as a world leader? Get REal dude....Just because a nation disagrees with the U.S. does not make them a threat..... |
No Cuba was not a threat. The others however were after the US and the US got virtually zero help.
Oh now even containing Saddam is warmonging.
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racking Number: 452077
Title: "Iran and Libya Sanctions Act: 'A Storm Is Brewing'." Commentators say the US sanctions and European resistance to them are increasingly viewed as a "trial of strength" between the EU and the US and one of the greatest sources of trade tension this year. (960812)
Date: 19960812
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FOREIGN MEDIA REACTION DAILY DIGEST USIA OFFICE OF RESEARCH AND MEDIA REACTION U.S. INFORMATION AGENCY, WASHINGTON, DC 20547 PATRICIA McARDLE, BRANCH CHIEF MEDIA REACTION, (R/MR) TELE. No. (202)619-6511 ANN PINCUS, DIRECTOR
Monday, August 12, 1996
IRAN AND LIBYA SANCTIONS ACT: 'A STORM IS BREWING'
Complaints about American "hegemony" continued to resonate in foreign commentary over the weekend on the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act of 1996. Commentators said that the sanctions, and European resistance to them, is increasingly viewed as a "trial of strength" between the EU and the United States and one of greatest sources of trade tension this year. Several pundits agreed with Tokyo's business-oriented Nihon Keizai which said that the U.S. should implement the sanctions in a "more prudent manner" and keep in mind "the importance of maintaining cooperative ties with its allies and avoiding unnecessary trade friction." |
http://www.fas.org/news/iran/1996/960812-452077.htm |
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