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Those non-franchised, crusty and moldy convenience stores
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Those non-franchised, crusty and moldy convenience stores Reply with quote

Hey, has anyone had this experience: Go into one of those little, individually-owned convenience stores to buy some eggs or a drink. The owner is always between age 50 and 90 and with a disposition ranging from indifferent to you to very very very grumpy. The store smells like rotten kimchi. Upon closely observing some of the products in the store, you realize those products must have been sitting on the shelf for at least 2 years. No other customers.

First obvious question (to me, at least): How do these places stay in business???? Doesnt seem like anyone every buys stuff from them; especially since they could just go to family mart or GS mart, instead. How do these places pay thier rent/utilities?? Do they get a government subsidy?

Someone I know suggested that the building space is often already owned and the person running the place is retired anyway. So expenses are low, as is required profit... But... still...
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LiquidSunshine



Joined: 31 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some people prefer to buy from mom and pop stores than from franchises. and they stay open probably because they own the space they are operating in.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is in a state of change (dynamic Korea) where the small business is about to become extinct due to large commercialized stores like E-mart and HomePlus. The people running small stores are aging and probably not cleaning or paying attention to expiration dates as I clearly observe. These little stores are often referred to as corner stores and still serve a purpose of convenience since big stores are not everywhere so some of the little old stores hang on until the proprietor passes on.

This is similiar to how Wal-Mart put Americas small businesses out of business during the 80's and 90's.

In Korea, away from modern development areas, I noticed the older folks are trying to hang onto the old way of life which centers around small business and 5 day markets held once every 5 days on the main street of villages and neighborhoods. Often, they carry pans of kimchee on thier heads and things are like the way they were when Korea was just a very poor little 3rd world country only a few decades ago. I live in such a place where you can get a glimpse of the past and there are those crusty little stores hanging on where adjoshis have a full time occupation of soju drinking and adjummas tend shop 18 hours a day. It's a smelly dirty place to say the least. A good place to get potatoes and onions.
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in_seoul_2003



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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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safeblad



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is a tobacconist near where I live, it consists of just the standard selection of cigarettes, below which is a bed from which the proprietor will grumpily raise herself to an upright sitting position to serve the you. If it doesnt make me smile it makes me feel slightly bad for intruding on nap time.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange you all mention the attitudes, as the moms and pops are almost always nice to me. In fact, I usually avoid those types of stores because I really hate standing around making small chat. At EMart, they do the ol' in-out, in-out with very few questions about my personal life.
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
Strange you all mention the attitudes, as the moms and pops are almost always nice to me. In fact, I usually avoid those types of stores because I really hate standing around making small chat. At EMart, they do the ol' in-out, in-out with very few questions about my personal life.


Well, to be fair, I've only had 2 or 3 cases in which the store owner was grumpy. One was very grumpy.. store was across from friend's school and he would alway walk outside and start shouting at us in Korea for merely standing there in front of his store.... as if he owned the street in front of his store and could prohibit our existence....

However, 1 store has this really nice couple -- younger 35ish, married -- who were totally cool and always giving me a free banana or melon....
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
Korea is in a state of change (dynamic Korea) where the small business is about to become extinct due to large commercialized stores like E-mart and HomePlus. The people running small stores are aging and probably not cleaning or paying attention to expiration dates as I clearly observe. These little stores are often referred to as corner stores and still serve a purpose of convenience since big stores are not everywhere so some of the little old stores hang on until the proprietor passes on.

This is similiar to how Wal-Mart put Americas small businesses out of business during the 80's and 90's.

In Korea, away from modern development areas, I noticed the older folks are trying to hang onto the old way of life which centers around small business and 5 day markets held once every 5 days on the main street of villages and neighborhoods. Often, they carry pans of kimchee on thier heads and things are like the way they were when Korea was just a very poor little 3rd world country only a few decades ago. I live in such a place where you can get a glimpse of the past and there are those crusty little stores hanging on where adjoshis have a full time occupation of soju drinking and adjummas tend shop 18 hours a day. It's a smelly dirty place to say the least. A good place to get potatoes and onions.


Im in a countryside place like this, too, now, and the way you described it is pretty much right on. In a way, it IS cool to see it as a place time forgot. I have had some bad luck with the 5 day market... bought some dried fruit that gave me food poisoning once.. but besides that its not a bad place to buy fruit or a new machette. There is one street on which many very very old women sit and sell vegetables and spices on the street.. definitely looks like something from the distant past. I also found some cool antiques the other day that some old farmer was selling... he was selling, among other things, a giant wooden diildo and a very old 100won bill (actually, does anyone out there know how long ago Korea was printing 100 won bills that were printed exclusively in Chinese characters rather than Hangeul?)
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

safeblad wrote:
there is a tobacconist near where I live, it consists of just the standard selection of cigarettes, below which is a bed from which the proprietor will grumpily raise herself to an upright sitting position to serve the you. If it doesnt make me smile it makes me feel slightly bad for intruding on nap time.


Let me barge my thingie up yo' backside, ehh.

Gee whiz!
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pest2 wrote:
Im in a countryside place like this, too, now, and the way you described it is pretty much right on. In a way, it IS cool to see it as a place time forgot. I have had some bad luck with the 5 day market... bought some dried fruit that gave me food poisoning once.. but besides that its not a bad place to buy fruit or a new machette. There is one street on which many very very old women sit and sell vegetables and spices on the street.. definitely looks like something from the distant past. I also found some cool antiques the other day that some old farmer was selling... he was selling, among other things, a giant wooden diildo and a very old 100won bill (actually, does anyone out there know how long ago Korea was printing 100 won bills that were printed exclusively in Chinese characters rather than Hangeul?)


I'm in Icheon, and although it's not a tremendously small town, it doesn't look like there has been any building built within the last forty years. The largest building in town is vacant. It's like the city got lost and forgotten in Korea's economic boom. But it has the town has a lot of character. I've had some success on the 5-day market as well, besides the odd rotten apple.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Quin here...I prefer the mom and pop stores...people are much friendlier there.
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mom and pops look crummier than the GS25s, but the prices are the same and there seems to be an insatiable appetite for convenience stores in dense Seoul. So they probably make a decent amount of scratch. I dunno about the expiration dates. Can you really tell if convenience store food has expired?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My hick town's full of them. It's just a case of someone using their home to make a little extra money on the side. Most of their income comes from selling booze or ciggies to people who can't be arsed to walk the extra 75 metres to Family Mart. Quite a few people in my town have small businesses that are part of their home. The other day I was eating in a restaurant where the family bathroom is also the public toilet. Even if such businesses hardly make anything it's not really costing them anything to be there.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
Can you really tell if convenience store food has expired?

I don't know about the OP's convenience store, but the one in my building only keeps non-perishable and fast-selling goods on their shelves. I'm pretty certain that box of ramen will last long after all of us are dead.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
Strange you all mention the attitudes, as the moms and pops are almost always nice to me. In fact, I usually avoid those types of stores because I really hate standing around making small chat. At EMart, they do the ol' in-out, in-out with very few questions about my personal life.


Homer wrote:
I'm with Quin here...I prefer the mom and pop stores...people are much friendlier there.



Couldn't resist, Homes. I like a friendly, but not a loquacious, cashier. I detest idling at the counter to talk about mundane details of my life. I'm really antisocial sometimes.

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