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[freethought]

About a year ago I remember reading an edition of Atlantic Monthly that focussed on the 'real threat'. That threat wasn't OBL or Islamic terrorism, but China.

While doing my MA, I read a number of stories that took similar positions; China was a threat that must be dealt with. Some argued that Iraq was diverting attention from a far graver military threat. Others argued that China was mainly an economic threat, but most of those articles also either advocated, or refused to rule out, military action to stem the tide of Chinese power and growth.

This gradually changed to include dialogues that discussed the threats 'post' Iraq; with Iraq either being lost or won, depending on the author/article.

But of late I've seen a new trend emerged, and this is just the most recent example. It's a matter of trying to tie Chinese success to the suffering of it's neighbours, in some cases suffering orchestrated and engineered by China.

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200705/200705210024.html

So my question to this forum, is do you view China as this threat that is passing under the radar? Militarily? Economically? In any shape or form, really.

[jinju]

My views on China are probably well known here.

I view China as the single biggest threat in the 21st century as well as the nexus of evil.

It is no secret that China's overall influence on the world stage has bee negative. Whether it is Chinas support of the most vile dictatorship in the world (DPRK), its support for governments that engage in mass scale genocide (Sudan), its oppression of its own people, its vile One China Policy, China is an evil that must be confronted.

[thepeel]

I do not see China as a threat. The more integrated into the world economy she becomes, the more stable the world will be.

China does not have worldwide hegemonic ambitions, but does have regional ambitions. The United States needs to walk a fine line in Asia.

[contrarian]

Since WWII China has had a large number of imperialistic territorial seizures.

1. Tibet.

2. When the UN got close to China in the Korean War the Chinese came into it. Now the Chinese calim the Corgoyeo were Chinese. Whhn NK collapses my bets are on CHina trying to grab huge portions of NK.

3. Taiwan. They still claim it, even if the people there don;t want want to be calimed.

4. India and Pakistan have both paid the price of Chinese territorial exlansion.

5. Burma has been a minor Victim.

6. The invaded North Viet Nam - and got their butts handed to them.

7. They have had armed border incidents with the old USSR in many areas.

8. They have some disputed Islands with Japan

9. They claim some islands, that might have oil, in an area closer to Viet Nam and the Phillipines.

10. They are even making claims in Mongolia.

The Chinese are a very big threat. They are also vulnerable. Their economy could very easily be "prompted" to crash and burn. Do it now rather than later, it will be easier.

[jinju]

I agree. crash china. It is a threat that needs to be neutralized ASAP.

[freethought]

"crash China"? What does that mean? How many people will be killed in the process? Moreover, we've seen how well crashing Iraq has gone, so why not give it another try...

As for the list of territorial claims and issues China has raised. A more expansive list can be made for the United States, so that really isn't a good way of judging 'threat level'. More importantly, China currently is making excellent progress in it's relations with India.

My stance for as long as I remember has been that China should be included, rather than excluded or attacked.

Those (jinju) who advocate 'crashing China', are you gonna join up with armed forces to crash it?--- keeping in mind I still am not sure what the hell 'crashing china' means.

[friendofIgnatius J.]

The problem is that China is still a developing nation (really poor). But its political and economical clout are disproportionate to its actual state of development. Compounding this problem is the fact that this power is wielded by a highly centralized clique.

Cheers

[jinju]

Crash them economically.

[Octavius Hite]

[Kuros]

China's too heavy on exports

[stevemcgarrett]

Octavius wrote:

[Roch]

[jinju]

[stevemcgarrett]

jinju wrote:

[contrarian]

I don't care what China considers Taiwan. If the peope there don't want the PRC that is all the matters. Give Taiwan a few nukes and the PRC will take a different view.