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ilovebdt
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 Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: Migrants Arirang |
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Hi Guys
From 10am this Sunday, June 3rd, there will be a Migrants Arirang at the Olympic Park in Seoul.
Here is a link to the website: www.migrantsarirang.com
The English version isn't available yet.
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stumptown
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Migrants Arirang |
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| ilovebdt wrote: |
Hi Guys
From 10am this Sunday, June 3rd, there will be a Migrants Arirang at the Olympic Park in Seoul.
Here is a link to the website: www.migrantsarirang.com
The English version isn't available yet.
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TheBrain
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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ilovebdt
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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It is a kinda festival where the different migrant communities in Korea share their culture through traditional arts and food.
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Kimchi Cha Cha
Joined: 15 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Kinda ironic, isn't it?
This arirang is supposedly set-up for migrants but the website is 100% in Korean, and not in any other language which migrants might speak.
I'd estimate for well over 95% of migrants to Korea, Korean isn't their first language. Even for kyopos, zainichi and Korean-Chinese their first language usually isn't Korean. Granted, many migrants learn Korean to varying degrees but, you'd think they would have made some effort to have parts of the website in at least English or Mandarin up and running by now, two days before the actual event.
Makes you wonder is this festival set up for migrants to show their cultures, or for Koreans to show how multi-cultural and enlightened they are by gawking at foreigners wearing strange clothes and cooking smelly food. |
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimchi Cha Cha wrote: |
Kinda ironic, isn't it?
This arirang is supposedly set-up for migrants but the website is 100% in Korean, and not in any other language which migrants might speak.
I'd estimate for well over 95% of migrants to Korea, Korean isn't their first language. Even for kyopos, zainichi and Korean-Chinese their first language usually isn't Korean. Granted, many migrants learn Korean to varying degrees but, you'd think they would have made some effort to have parts of the website in at least English or Mandarin up and running by now, two days before the actual event.
Makes you wonder is this festival set up for migrants to show their cultures, or for Koreans to show how multi-cultural and enlightened they are by gawking at foreigners wearing strange clothes and cooking smelly food. |
Oh calm down. The festival is for Koreans to check out other cultures. The foreigners who are setting up the booths don't need the site because they're a part of the festival. Sure, it'd be nice if they translated into every language and Esperanto, but translations are expensive, and that's not their target audience.
Listen to how ridiculously Malcolm X you sound. As I understand, this is the Korean equivalent of International Day at a local college. It's a good thing, not another thing you need to complain about. |
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimchi Cha Cha wrote: |
Kinda ironic, isn't it?
I'd estimate for well over 95% of migrants to Korea, Korean isn't their first language. Even for kyopos, zainichi and Korean-Chinese their first language usually isn't Korean. Granted, many migrants learn Korean to varying degrees but, you'd think they would have made some effort to have parts of the website in at least English or Mandarin up and running by now, two days before the actual event.
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Actually, lots of migrants especially those who have worked here a long time do speak Korean. In my city and in other cities there are migrant centres which offer Korean classes.
However, I do agree that it would be nice if the site could have been translated for the newer arrivals. Logically, those countries who are participating could do a write up in their own language about the arirang and post it on the site.
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Kimchi Cha Cha
Joined: 15 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
| Kimchi Cha Cha wrote: |
Kinda ironic, isn't it?
This arirang is supposedly set-up for migrants but the website is 100% in Korean, and not in any other language which migrants might speak.
I'd estimate for well over 95% of migrants to Korea, Korean isn't their first language. Even for kyopos, zainichi and Korean-Chinese their first language usually isn't Korean. Granted, many migrants learn Korean to varying degrees but, you'd think they would have made some effort to have parts of the website in at least English or Mandarin up and running by now, two days before the actual event.
Makes you wonder is this festival set up for migrants to show their cultures, or for Koreans to show how multi-cultural and enlightened they are by gawking at foreigners wearing strange clothes and cooking smelly food. |
Oh calm down. The festival is for Koreans to check out other cultures. The foreigners who are setting up the booths don't need the site because they're a part of the festival. Sure, it'd be nice if they translated into every language and Esperanto, but translations are expensive, and that's not their target audience.
Listen to how ridiculously Malcolm X you sound. As I understand, this is the Korean equivalent of International Day at a local college. It's a good thing, not another thing you need to complain about. |
I'm going through a bad Korea month and just venting, don't mind me. 
Looking back, I was a bit overboard with that. I just think that the event would be all the more fulfilling for everyone if they promoted it a little more in other languages so more migrants would be aware of it and come along. Hope the event goes well. |
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billybrobby
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I hear you. I can understand your skepticism as there's definitely an uncomfortable subtext to most international events hosted by Koreans. It's kind of like they're at the blackface stage of racial inclusion: "First, we'll accept you as a spectacle. But don't actually try to be a part of our society." Alright, maybe it's not that bad, maybe I'm getting too Malcolm X. I'm actually really thinking of going to this thing, but maybe just because I'm hungry right now. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I can mail over some okra and collard greens if anyone wants to make an American presence at the festival. Maybe a miniature hummer and a scale model of a giant city filled with parking lots for the cultural aspect. |
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Kimchi Cha Cha
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
| I hear you. I can understand your skepticism as there's definitely an uncomfortable subtext to most international events hosted by Koreans. It's kind of like they're at the blackface stage of racial inclusion: "First, we'll accept you as a spectacle. But don't actually try to be a part of our society." Alright, maybe it's not that bad, maybe I'm getting too Malcolm X. I'm actually really thinking of going to this thing, but maybe just because I'm hungry right now. |
I often feel the same way. But, I guess it's a step in the right direction - it's better than the locals just completely shunning foreigners - and hopefully will develop and mature as times goes by.
It's a bit of a hike for me to make it, but I'd definitely like to try the food that'll be on offer there. |
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wylies99
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It sounds like an even worth attending.  |
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