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freethought
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: The destructive power of Hollywood blockbusters |
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That was the line in the second last paragraph in this story featured in the Herald:
https://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/05/10/200705100008.asp
The whole story is reads like a protectionist, delusional stance on cinema and seemingly has no connection to the reality of the box office market place or free market practices, for that matter.
Citing the lower than expected ticket sales for a korean film, it blames spiderman 3 for this film's downfall. It seems to fail to recognize that the film had essentially three weeks to make a profit and sell out and it failed to do so. That can't possibly be S3's fault seeing as that it wasn't even released.
For the record, i hated spiderman three, and this is not me defending it, but rather pointing out the xenophobic and delusional lunacy that gets published in Korean papers. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at Canada, which has similar protectionist stances for it's local media, yet faces the same problem of being swamped by the Hollywood machine:
Canadian TV and movies 90% suck ass, so everyone wants to watch American. Korea, where entertainment sucks 99% ass, stands no chance.
Case closed. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Korea, where entertainment sucks 99% ass, stands no chance.
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According to who....yourself?????
Korean entertainment is meant for Koreans. Every korean i know enjoys it very much. even myself after living here so many years and watching quite a bit of it can have the odd chuckle every now and then.
However, the OP is emphasizing movies....-besides the romantic comedies, Korea hands America its ass in flim-making. More like 90% of the movies that come from America are gutter crap. there are exceptions but as American movies have come to rely on CG and special effects more and more the art of mov ie making has diminished until you have a lot of special effects thrown together and not too much story...
Korean movies are quality with unpredictable endings and gripping storeis, and certainly have more moviemaking talent than americans. I'm not saying americans can't make good movies, it just appears that most of them have gotten lazy and have forgotten how too. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| just because wrote: |
| twg wrote: |
Korea, where entertainment sucks 99% ass, stands no chance.
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However, the OP is emphasizing movies....-besides the romantic comedies, Korea hands America its ass in flim-making. More like 90% of the movies that come from America are gutter crap. there are exceptions but as American movies have come to rely on CG and special effects more and more the art of mov ie making has diminished until you have a lot of special effects thrown together and not too much story...
Korean movies are quality with unpredictable endings and gripping storeis, and certainly have more moviemaking talent than americans. I'm not saying americans can't make good movies, it just appears that most of them have gotten lazy and have forgotten how too. |
I completely disagree. I would say for the most part that most Korean movies are crap. Just the same stories over and over again. Plenty of American movies are crap too, but it isn't an American thing. I would say 75% of Korean movies I need to turn on half way before turning it back on again and finishing it. |
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freethought
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Just Because seems to have a case of koreanitis... that's the disease where any comment is viewed as the greatest personal attack in history.
I've liked a few korean flims. Found several of them charming. I've also found many of them to be total crap. The comedies are about as intelligent as white chicks, or a fart gag from the 1950s.
I mentioned films because that's what the article was about. Not the quality of American cinema or korean, but the ridiculous story saying that spiderman was somehow to blame for the failure of a korean movie to garner box office success, despite the fact spiderman wasn't released for roughly the first 3 weeks of the korean movie's release. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Can't blame a country for not wanting their movies and TV to be totally American. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| just because wrote: |
Korean movies are quality with unpredictable endings and gripping storeis, and certainly have more moviemaking talent than americans. I'm not saying americans can't make good movies, it just appears that most of them have gotten lazy and have forgotten how too. |
Hahahahaha. I'm not going to defend the crap Hollywood churns out, but this statement you made is hilarious, absolutely hilarious.
My friends and I have a little game. It's called, "guess what's about to happen in the Korean movie trailer." Guess what, we're always spot on! Our favorite is waiting for the part with someone bawling their eyes out.
90% of Korean movies are stupid slapstick comedies or super insanely overemotional melodramas. I mean, that's cool that that's what Koreans dig, but to say they "are quality with unpredictable endings and gripping storeis" is just WAY over the top. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| freethought wrote: |
Just Because seems to have a case of koreanitis... that's the disease where any comment is viewed as the greatest personal attack in history.
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i am certainly no apologist...just call it like i see it. Go through my posting history if you like.
American entertainment is average at best. It appeals to the lowest common denominator in most cases which is fine if that is what is making money but for people to call korean entertainment crap and then defend american entertainment is a bit rich...
I wasn't actually attacking twg either. I know he is a long-time resident who does make some solid posts, just that people seem to jump all over Korean entertainment just because they don't get it...so it must be crap.
I'll admit a lot of Korean movies (especially the romantic ones) are crap as well but in recent years Korean cinema has turned out better movies than american studios.... |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| scotticus wrote: |
| 90% of Korean movies are stupid slapstick comedies or super insanely overemotional melodramas. I mean, that's cool that that's what Koreans dig, but to say they "are quality with unpredictable endings and gripping storeis" is just WAY over the top |
90% you say......how did you come to this figure???? |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| just because wrote: |
| scotticus wrote: |
| 90% of Korean movies are stupid slapstick comedies or super insanely overemotional melodramas. I mean, that's cool that that's what Koreans dig, but to say they "are quality with unpredictable endings and gripping storeis" is just WAY over the top |
90% you say......how did you come to this figure???? |
Same place you got your comment about how great Korean films are... out of my ass. Difference being, my comment is plausible, whereas yours was laughable. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Seems you know it all......
can't argue with an ignoramus.
i suggest you look here as korean cinema isn't just crap
http://www.koreanfilm.org/ |
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freethought
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Just because:
I'm afraid you can't really call anyone an ignoramus after making your original post. You initial post questioned the validity of TWg's opinion/number, and then you, as Scotticus pointed out, arbitrarily pulled a number out of your ass. You also claim to be knowing it all as well...
And as for the link. Posting a link to what amounts as a SIG or fan site isn't really proof of anything. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I am not going to change my stance.
We will just have to agree to disagree i suppose...you guys can be content watching american movies while i will watch the whole spectrum.
BTWi It isn't a fan site...it is his life.
That site is his job and he is the biggest english language expert on korean film in the world. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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If Koreans like their Korean movies so much, they'd watch them.
No one is forcing them to watch Spiderman 3 (Hell....my own friends couldn't force me to watch that crap).
Korea has to step up their game and get people in those seats, bitching about American movies is nothing more than another pathetic blame game. Jump on the ball, Korean movie industry, get in some better advertisements and green light better movies!
The Korean wave is taking a hit because the industry is starting to oversaturate the market....That's all it comes down to: Quantity versus Quality... |
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freethought
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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you see, this is why I made my koreanitis comment. The comments thus far have not been praising the American film industry. Moreover, to make the comments that have been made it's clear that those of us who are disagreeing with you DO watch more than american movies, and we DO watch korean movies. That's why we're making the comments that we're making.
There's a hell of a lot more out there then Korean and American cinema, and to say that all we watch is one kind of movie is the reason why I made my initial appraisal of your post. it was and you continue to be extremely defensive.
As for the site, I can put up a link to some anime or D&D site, but that hardly makes a point or proves the inherent value of anime or D&D... |
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