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MollyBloom
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants
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 Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: Do schools infiltrate Dave's and fire/warn postees? |
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| This is a popular pasttime with evil hagwon owners, directors, and other admins. Has anyone ever gotten fired, threatened, or warned because of something they posted? Has anyone from your school ratted you out? Or "found out" who you are? Just some thoughts on this, how people dealt with it, and if doing that is somehow a violation of privacy. |
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rawiri
Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| In my three years here it's never happened to me or anyone i know. Paranoia will destroy ya. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:23 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen and certainly not parnoia.
I have it on good authority that the larger chains (YBM, Pagoda and Korea Poly Schools) do troll the boards for comments made about their schools.
If anyone wants to PM me, I'd be more then happy to tell how I know this. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| Pagoda has done this many times. Several staff meetings were convened after certain postings here, and we were told to stop posting the ongoings here. Other posters have been PMed by someone in (Kangnam branch) management to stop it. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Pagoda has done this many times. Several staff meetings were convened after certain postings here, and we were told to stop posting the ongoings here. Other posters have been PMed by someone in (Kangnam branch) management to stop it. |
That's hilarious! Instead of listening to the complaints, or trying to understand them, it's "stop it or else!"  |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Pagoda has done this many times. Several staff meetings were convened after certain postings here, and we were told to stop posting the ongoings here. Other posters have been PMed by someone in (Kangnam branch) management to stop it. |
Big brother - I knew that it happened but didn't expect the bigger chains to be so blatant about.
What a bunch of dumbasses. Another good reason to avoid YBM or Pagoda - I guess that brings my list to something like 57 reasons or so. |
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shifdog
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| It's easier to tell people to cease and desist rather than actually coming up with a solution to the problem. This is typical Korean laziness. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Pagoda has done this many times. Several staff meetings were convened after certain postings here, and we were told to stop posting the ongoings here. Other posters have been PMed by someone in (Kangnam branch) management to stop it. |
Big brother - I knew that it happened but didn't expect the bigger chains to be so blatant about.
What a bunch of dumbasses. Another good reason to avoid YBM or Pagoda - I guess that brings my list to something like 57 reasons or so. |
My first job was with YBM in a smaller city, and we were told that if they even " heard about" us doing other work on the side , we would be fired on the spot. We were a couple of newbies and my soon to be pregnant wife was with me, so not a lot was said by us about that. We were also accoused of bad- mouthing the director , ostensibly, the comments were made to an adult student. I was never really sure if I did or not, and it could have been my co-worker.
That was then , and this is now. I would walk right out the door if that was said to me today.
Bad mouthing one's employer is probably not the best thing to do, but stifling free speech is not the answer. At the very least, YBM, and other employers here in Korea should listen to what it's employees have to say. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| SuperHero wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Pagoda has done this many times. Several staff meetings were convened after certain postings here, and we were told to stop posting the ongoings here. Other posters have been PMed by someone in (Kangnam branch) management to stop it. |
Big brother - I knew that it happened but didn't expect the bigger chains to be so blatant about.
What a bunch of dumbasses. Another good reason to avoid YBM or Pagoda - I guess that brings my list to something like 57 reasons or so. |
My first job was with YBM in a smaller city, and we were told that if they even " heard about" us doing other work on the side , we would be fired on the spot. We were a couple of newbies and my soon to be pregnant wife was with me, so not a lot was said by us about that. We were also accoused of bad- mouthing the director , ostensibly, the comments were made to an adult student. I was never really sure if I did or not, and it could have been my co-worker.
That was then , and this is now. I would walk right out the door if that was said to me today.
Bad mouthing one's employer is probably not the best thing to do, but stifling free speech is not the answer. At the very least, YBM, and other employers here in Korea should listen to what it's employees have to say. |
Yeah I believe this, especially from YBM. Those who think that some of the hogwons aren't capable of this are in denial. |
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Fresh Prince
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:48 am Post subject: |
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I'm certain that Korean English speakers frequent ESL boards. They advertise their open positions, why wouldn't they also read and post in the forums?
Whether they have fired anyone or not I can't say. I suppose they would have to figure out the identity of someone in order to do that.
I've met hogwan owners that have spent several years studying in western countries. Their English is quite good and they know quite a bit about western culture. I'm sure that the thought of creating a western persona on an ESL board has crossed their mind. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| A good reason why one should work under a very solid pseudonym. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:28 am Post subject: |
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You worried about "The Shocker" thread Molly??
What you post on here stays for eternity. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
You worried about "The Shocker" thread Molly??
What you post on here stays for eternity. |
Yeah, at least change that thread title. Giving "the Shocker" in Classrooms sounds... not so good. |
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Ced
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| It takes away the whole point of being on the internet, having your identity secret and being able to say what you want. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Do schools infiltrate Dave's and fire/warn postees? |
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| MollyBloom wrote: |
| This is a popular pasttime with evil hagwon owners, directors, and other admins. |
I doubt it. |
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