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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man
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 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: Criminal record checks for US citizens: WTF? |
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i don't mean to say that US citizens are without reproach, but --and correct me if i'm wrong-- there's no nation-wide database of these things, only 50 state-wide ones (and probably some territories). so i could commit crimes in 49 states, but get a background check from the 50th.
(my last public school didn't even ask for one --they were a bit desperate, i suppose) |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Criminal record checks for US citizens: WTF? |
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| KWhitehead wrote: |
i don't mean to say that US citizens are without reproach, but --and correct me if i'm wrong-- there's no nation-wide database of these things, only 50 state-wide ones (and probably some territories). so i could commit crimes in 49 states, but get a background check from the 50th.
(my last public school didn't even ask for one --they were a bit desperate, i suppose) |
50 state databases and the FBI federal one - none of which are cross referenced.
Commit a federal offence (FBI jurisdiction) and there is nothing in any of the state databases.
Yup... makes no sense but that's the way it is. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Criminal record checks for US citizens: WTF? |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| KWhitehead wrote: |
i don't mean to say that US citizens are without reproach, but --and correct me if i'm wrong-- there's no nation-wide database of these things, only 50 state-wide ones (and probably some territories). so i could commit crimes in 49 states, but get a background check from the 50th.
(my last public school didn't even ask for one --they were a bit desperate, i suppose) |
50 state databases and the FBI federal one - none of which are cross referenced.
Commit a federal offence (FBI jurisdiction) and there is nothing in any of the state databases. Yup... makes no sense but that's the way it is. |
Actually, states are hooked up to the fed's system. All that is required is a name or SS number for a check to be conducted. Many cop cars now have the Automated Fingerprint Identification System (AFIS) which cross checks against the feds data base. You put your fingers into the scanner and bingo, and you don't have to be arrested for the man to run your prints. You're sitting in the car when they "tell" you to scan your prints...refuse and you're going to jail for failure to comply. All the cop has to say is that they has reasonable suspicion that you are guilty of something. When someone is arrested, their fingerprints are checked; you are now in the system and if, convicted, they are automatically entered into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System as a convicted criminal (NICS).
It is very easy to run a criminal check on someone, all that's needed is a name and or SS number.
A person convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year, either state or federal, whether or not sentence is imposed. This includes misdemeanor offenses with a potential term of imprisonment in excess of two years, whether or not sentence was imposed.
Persons who are fugitives of justice; for example, the subject of an active felony or misdemeanor warrant.
An unlawful user and/or an addict of any controlled substance; for example, a person convicted for the use or possession of a controlled substance within the past year, or a person with multiple arrests for the use or possession of a controlled substance within the past five years with the most recent arrest occurring within the past year, or a person found through a drug test to use a controlled substance unlawfully, provided the test was administered within the past year.
A person adjudicated mental defective or involuntarily committed to a mental institution or incompetent to handle own affairs, including dispositions to criminal charges pertaining to found not guilty by reason of insanity or found incompetent to stand trial.
A person dishonorably discharged from the United States Armed Forces.
A person who has renounced his/her United States citizenship.
The subject of a protective order issued after a hearing in which the respondent had notice that restrains them from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such partner. This does not include ex parte orders.
A person convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime which includes the use or attempted use of physical force or threatened use of a deadly weapon and the defendant was the spouse, former spouse, parent, guardian of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabiting with or has cohabited in the past with the victim as a spouse, parent, guardian or similarly situated to a spouse, parent or guardian of the victim.
A person under indictment or information for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year. |
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Wondering
Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| I haven't even lived in the states for close to nine years. Nearly all of my adult life has taken place here in Korea. Not sure exactly what kind of criminal record check they want, but luckily, my dad is an ex-cop, so I've e-mailed him and asked him what he can come up with. My recruiter sent me a link to a website regarding the criminal checks, but the very first instruction given is to go to your local police department. Um, yeah. My local police department is in Korea, not America. I'm just hoping my dad can figure out what the heck it is that they want. |
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dogshed
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| Wondering wrote: |
| I haven't even lived in the states for close to nine years. Nearly all of my adult life has taken place here in Korea. Not sure exactly what kind of criminal record check they want, but luckily, my dad is an ex-cop, so I've e-mailed him and asked him what he can come up with. My recruiter sent me a link to a website regarding the criminal checks, but the very first instruction given is to go to your local police department. Um, yeah. My local police department is in Korea, not America. I'm just hoping my dad can figure out what the heck it is that they want. |
I think asking someone to provide their own criminal background check
is stupid. It would be so easy to fake.
I just kept asking my recruiter what kind she wanted and telling
her how the Missouri web site says it will take weeks etc. until she had
me sign a form saying I wasn't a criminal. That seemed to work. |
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icnelly
Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I had to get one. My mom went down to the local PD and asked for a criminal check on me, and she got it no problem. Not even from the state, I mean it was just for the local jurisdiction of my town's PD. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| They can be ordered online from many companies. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Don't do the online from private companies.
Go directly to your local PD or Sheriff.
I got mine from the Sheriff.
They do a Statewide check.
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Contact the NCIC for your report. But, there must be a better/faster way. I don't think it is necessary. You could just get the state report, that is probably enough.
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm |
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