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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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 Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: Document: Iran Caught Red-Handed Shipping Arms to Taliban |
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Document: Iran Caught Red-Handed Shipping Arms to Taliban
June 06, 2007 6:00 PM
Brian Ross and Christopher Isham Report:
Document_iran_c_mn NATO officials say they have caught Iran red-handed, shipping heavy arms, C4 explosives and advanced roadside bombs to the Taliban for use against NATO forces, in what the officials say is a dramatic escalation of Iran's proxy war against the United States and Great Britain.
"It is inconceivable that it is anyone other than the Iranian government that's doing it," said former White House counterterrorism official Richard Clarke, an ABC News consultant.
Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stopped short earlier this week of blaming Iran, saying the U.S. did not have evidence "of the involvement of the Iranian government in support of the Taliban."
But an analysis by a senior coalition official, obtained by the Blotter on ABCNews.com, concludes there is clear evidence of Iran's involvement.
"This is part of a considered policy," says the analysis, "rather than the result of low-level corruption and weapons smuggling."
Iran and the Taliban had been fierce enemies when the Taliban was in power in Afghanistan, and their apparent collaboration came as a surprise to some in the intelligence community.
"I think their goal is to make it very clear that Iran has the capability to make life worse for the United States on a variety of fronts," said Seth Jones of the Rand Institute, "even if they have to do some business with a group that has historically been their enemy."
The coalition analysis says munitions recovered in two Iranian convoys, on April 11 and May 3, had "clear indications that they originated in Iran. Some were identical to Iranian supplied goods previously discovered in Iraq."
The April convoy was tracked from Iran into Helmand province and led a fierce firefight that destroyed one vehicle, according to the official analysis. A second vehicle was reportedly found to contain small arms ammunition, mortar rounds and more than 650 pounds of C4 demolition charges.
A second convoy of two vehicles was spotted on May 3 and led to the capture of five occupants and the seizure of RPG-7mm rockets and more than 1,000 pounds of C4, the analysis says.
Also among the munitions are components for the lethal EFPs, or explosive formed projectiles, the roadside bombs that U.S. officials say Iran has provided to Iraqi insurgents with deadly results.
"These clearly have the hallmarks of the Iranian Revolution Guards' Quds force," said Jones.
The coalition diplomatic message says the demolition charges "contained the same fake U.S. markings found on explosives recovered from insurgents operating in the Baghdad area."
"We believe these intercepted munitions are part of a much bigger flow of support from Iran to the Taliban," the message says.
The Taliban receives larger supplies of weapons through profits from opium dealing, officials say, but the Iranian presence could be significant.
"It means the insurgency in Afghanistan is likely to be prolonged," said Jones. "It would be a much more potent force."
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Joo,
Great "heads up" thread topic. It is fast becoming clear to me that Iran will stop at nothing to dominate the region.
While it has been difficult to directly link Iranian government involvement to arms smuggling in Iraq, this latest seizure makes their actions plain.
I believe these ba-stards should be called before the UN and if they refuse to cease and desist be put on warning for possible military action.
Enough is enough. Iran is the linchpin of the conflict in the Middle East, not al-Qaeda. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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The situation with Iran is crazy in my opinion. Everyone knows Iran is doing shady things. Everyone knows Iran has a big hand in the Iraq insurgency. Everyone knows that Iran is helping/harboring Muslim extremists.
It reminds me of my middle school days. I smoked and my parents knew it but they couldn't do anything to me because they never caught me red handed. My clothes smelled like smoke. They'd find lighters in my pockets but lighters are only circumstantial. They either needed to find cigarettes on in my possession or catch me smoking in order to punish me. They knew I smoked but they could never prove it.
Thats like Iran. Iran smells like smoke. Iran has been caught with lighters and matches. However, being caught with lighters/matches and smelling like smoke isn't enough to justify punishment even though everybody knows Iran is doing something bad.
What is funny is when Iran is caught red handed, there will still be people in the world who would say "OMG, thats unbelievable. Why would the kind and noble Iranian government do such a thing!" |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| It's no surprise that Iran have a hand in Iraq, but the first thing I thought of reading that article was, "yellow cake from Africa". |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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While I don't doubt the Iranian government is a bunch of bastards...
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| Document_iran_c_mn NATO officials say they have caught Iran red-handed, shipping heavy arms, C4 explosives and advanced roadside bombs to the Taliban for use against NATO forces |
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| Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stopped short earlier this week of blaming Iran, saying the U.S. did not have evidence "of the involvement of the Iranian government in support of the Taliban." |
This is an amazing example of chicken-hawk cherry-picking, much like the lead up to the Iraq invasion.
Sorry you neo-cons already used up your credibility with your cries of "wolf" with Iraq, you're going to have to work harder to get your war boners on this one. |
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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| Even if the evidence exists and the evidence is real, not fabricated, and the US does something to neutralize this threat, countries and America bashers will ask why America has to police the world and America this and America that. However, if America does nothing, and Iran is doing bad things and does start some huge stink in the ME, everyone will ask why America, when the evidence all suggested Iran was doing these bad things, didn't stop them... Dam-ned if you do, dam-ned if you don't! Oh, and then the, "America did it for Iran's oil," ditto-heads will start with their stupid cr@p... |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: |
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also read several articles recently outlining the surprising fact that the U.S. government was suppling millions of dollars of armnaments to Afghanistan and Iraq. Wow!
These are said to be responsible for 10s of thousands of deaths.
The article also went on to outline how it thought the U.S.A. was trying to dominate the region.
I really don't know what to think?
Maybe this is a good way to make money?
DD |
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cosmo
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| also read several articles recently outlining the surprising fact that the U.S. government was suppling millions of dollars of armnaments to Afghanistan and Iraq. Wow! |
WOW is right... You have just learned this now? What sand pile have you had your head buried under? But, at the time the US was supplying arms to Iraq, they were fighting the Iranians (remember that little skirmish called the Iran Iraq war). America believed at the time that the Iraqis were the lesser of two evils. And, at the time the Americans were supplying the Afghanis, they were fighting the Russians, our cold-war nemesis. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| It's no surprise that Iran have a hand in Iraq |
Well, it says that Iran is supporting the Taliban, which I assume would mean that they're talking about Afghanistan, not Iraq. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: |
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[quote="ddeubel"]
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| also read several articles recently outlining the surprising fact that the U.S. government was suppling millions of dollars of armnaments to Afghanistan and Iraq. Wow! |
Yes but that was in cause the Bathists , and Jihad international won't give up their war.
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| These are said to be responsible for 10s of thousands of deaths. |
saving the Kurds from Saddam and saving Afghanistan also saves lives. Besides their war is evil.
Just like the agenda of the Soviets was.
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| The article also went on to outline how it thought the U.S.A. was trying to dominate the region. |
No the US is trying to force the Bathists and the Khomeni lovers and the Jihad international to give up their war.
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| I really don't know what to think? |
You got that right |
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