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mcgeezer
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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 Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: Troop Surge: Will it be Effective? |
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from the Associated Press:
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The attacks came days after the Pentagon announced the completion of the troop buildup ordered by President Bush in January, raising the total number of troops in Iraq to about 150,000. That number may still climb as more support troops move in.
The Bush administration has warned that the buildup will result in more U.S. casualties as more American soldiers come into contact with enemy forces and concentrate on the streets of Baghdad and remote outposts.
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Will the increase in U.S. troops result in a reduction of al-Qaeda and other insurgent attacks in Iraq?
Or will such attacks simply increase because many of these groups see the increase of troops as a reason to step up their campaigns against the occupation?
Is 20,000 troops enough to quell the increase in violence over the past 12 months? |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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NO.
More targets. Any school kid could figure that one out.
DD |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| Al Quadi and Bin Ladin are going to LOVE this. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: |
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No, it won't. The surge is in place right now and is not working just check out the link in my signature.
This won't work and this will be remembered as disastorous as the "escalation" in Vietnam.
Its not enough troops, not even close. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: ... |
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| I think announcing you're going to have a troop surge is a bad idea. |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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I think in order to win Iraq, we will have to secure areas for economic activity to occur in order to give them jobs and a new way of life. Everyone needs a job and the infrastructure rebuilt as to have the money and the means to adequately live. Much of the insurgency is a result of strife over being dirt poor without adequate means of living since the fall of Sadam. Having not secured Iraq while supporting for there to be a new economy is where America is falling short on the costly mission.
Increasing troops can help if the strategy is to secure areas where oil can be pumped and businesses set up. It's high time that America starts to see some gas savings as our real interest is securing that great big oil supply to fuel our economy.
Mr. Bush, you go increase the troop numbers and incur more historically high national debt without a way to reap the dividends through all that oil under Iraq while giving the Iraq people thier jobs back, we risk a huge economic collapse. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| sojourner1 wrote: |
| I think in order to win Iraq, we will have to secure areas for economic activity to occur in order to give them jobs and a new way of life. Everyone needs a job and the infrastructure rebuilt as to have the money and the means to adequately live. Much of the insurgency is a result of strife over being dirt poor without adequate means of living since the fall of Sadam. Having not secured Iraq while supporting for there to be a new economy is where America is falling short on the costly mission. |
I think that's the key to peace anywhere. If you have a job to go to, a mortgage to pay, and the ability to pay that mortgage and no sense like the world is going to end tomorrow, you don't have time to work up hate for the guy with the weird religion next door.
I think this surge was supposed to be accompanied with a follow on assessment "is it working?", with a promise of doing something completely new if it was determined pouring more bodies in was a bad solution. |
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Saxiif
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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The matador keeps on waving the red cape and the bull keeps on charging.
After all if the bull ever stopped charing the red cape, then that would mean that the matador would win. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Saxiif wrote: |
The matador keeps on waving the red cape and the bull keeps on charging.
After all if the bull ever stopped charing the red cape, then that would mean that the matador would win. |
It's something of a war of attrition when you're not fighting a state backed army. You kill one guy, you're killing someone's father. The son steps up to avenge his father's death. Now you have to kill him. Then his uncle has to step up. You have to kill him. Then his son steps up...
Either Americans get tired of being killed or Iraqis get tired of being killed. Whoever cries uncle first loses. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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