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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: Boy, 11, bags hog bigger than 'Hogzilla' |
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Boy, 11, bags hog bigger than 'Hogzilla' By KATE BRUMBACK, Associated Press Writer
Sat May 26, 9:32 AM ET
MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Hogzilla is being made into a horror movie. But the sequel may be even bigger: Meet Monster Pig. An 11-year-old boy used a pistol to kill a wild hog his father says weighed a staggering 1,051 pounds and measured 9 feet 4, from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail. Think hams as big as car tires.
If the claims are accurate, Jamison Stone's trophy boar would be bigger than Hogzilla, the famed wild hog that grew to seemingly mythical proportions after being killed in south Georgia in 2004.
Hogzilla originally was thought to weigh 1,000 pounds and measure 12 feet long. National Geographic experts who unearthed its remains believe the animal actually weighed about 800 pounds and was 8 feet long.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070526/ap_on_fe_st/odd_monster_pig;_ylt=AugHNR9lvbruSPMOe9JyFJGhOrgF |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Am I the only one who thinks that it is a bad thing that the hog was killed? |
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Am I the only one who thinks that it is a bad thing that the hog was killed? |
No. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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The wierdness of an eleven-year-old carrying a fifty-caliber pistol, a weapon more powerful than Dirty Harry's .44 Magnum, notwithstanding, I salute the boy's bravery for standing his ground against that thing armed only with a handgun. And I think I would rather face an anaconda than a pig that big.
A pig that big could ram your house. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, sad the pig was killed. Like the gator story on another thread, should have been kept alive to keep the gene pool going strong. As for the bravery of the boy, there were adult men with him carrying rifles and covering him all the way. Now, if I knew how close the pig was when first shot, etc., it might be more impressive. Or if he had been alone. But with a posse ready to take it down? Impressive bag, but not really an example of bravery. |
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bjonothan
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
Location: All over the place
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| Some of you are pu$$ies. It was a pig for God's sake. Haven't you ever killed an animal before? I think you need more time out of the classroom in the real world for a while. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| bjonothan wrote: |
| Some of you are pu$$ies. It was a pig for God's sake. Haven't you ever killed an animal before? I think you need more time out of the classroom in the real world for a while. |
This wasn't some animal from an over populated group like deer. I figure that any good hunter would realize that killing rare animals is bad conservation and wouldn't do it. |
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Nicco61
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: North Carolina, USA
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| This wasn't some animal from an over populated group like deer. I figure that any good hunter would realize that killing rare animals is bad conservation and wouldn't do it |
I will agree that a hog that size is rare however wild hog are not. They are all over the place ranging in just about all 50 states and do an incredible amount of damage to crops.
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USA experiences population boom � of feral hogs
By Tom Vanden Brook, USA TODAY
Booming numbers of wild hogs are colliding with motorists, devouring crops, spreading disease and terrifying landowners from tony towns on the Pacific Coast to the swamps of the Carolinas.
A trapped juvenile boar is prepared for transfer near Hazel Creek, N.C.
By John D. Simmons, Charlotte Observer via AP
Feral pigs wield four-inch razor-sharp tusks and breed so prolifically that their populations are escalating dramatically in some places.
"We know that Texas has more feral hogs than any other state," says Billy Higginbotham, a professor at Texas A&M University. "With 1.5 million in the state, we will never eradicate them. The best we can hope for is to keep their numbers under control."
So-called feral hogs are descendants of swine that fled farms or boars that were released by hunters for sport. They are thriving in the wild, in some cases reaching 400 pounds or more.
What all feral pigs share in common is an unbridled appetite for everything from lady-slippers to acorns to zucchini. They've been known to tear up hundreds of acres of soil in a few nights looking for what is beneath, ruining crop land. If they don't find enough food in the wild, they'll plow through trash cans and yards.
And they reproduce like rabbits, breeding litters of a dozen or more piglets twice a year.
"I've seen as many as 19 babies," says Trent Horne, a 35-year-old hunting guide from South Carolina. "They follow the sow around like ducklings follow a mama duck. Alligators get the little ones down here. Snakes get some, too. But wild pigs are smart, and mama pig is a pretty good protector."
Their booming numbers have caused headaches across the USA:
� In the scenic coastal city of Carmel, Calif., state transportation officials put up "Pig Crossing" signs recently on Highway 1. The warnings went up after a motorcyclist received serious head injuries after he slammed into a bunch of pigs darting across a road last year.
"These are not your Babe-type pigs," says Colin Jones, a California Department of Transportation spokesman. "They're wild pigs, right next to an internationally known highway. You wouldn't expect to see them here."
� A wild pig gored a teenager in Louisiana, igniting fears of rabies after the animal tested positive for the disease. Later tests showed the animal did not have rabies.
� Feral hogs carry diseases including brucellosis, pseudorabies and tuberculosis. Some cause reproductive problems in domestic pigs, Missouri wildlife officials say. Hunters also have been chased up trees by aggressive pigs in the Show-Me State.
Higginbotham says the feral pig population in Texas has exploded in the last decade. He surveyed landowners in the eastern part of the state and found increasing numbers had reported seeing the hogs on their land in recent years.
One Texas property owner told Higginbotham in a survey, "I fear allowing my grandchildren to go beyond the yard as they might be attacked by wild hogs."
Several states have responded by declaring open season on wild pigs year-round with no limit on the number that can be bagged.
Tennessee, for example, allows hunters to kill as many wild pigs of either sex as they wish on private land, with the owner's permission.
The Missouri Department of Conservation pleads with hunters on its Web site: "If you encounter a feral hog while hunting deer or other game, shoot it on sight."
Van Zandt County, Texas, has put a bounty on the heads of wild hogs. The county pays $7 for each matched pair of ears from feral hogs. In one month, the county wrote checks for 568 pairs.
Hawaii has one of the USA's longest-running and most serious problems with feral pigs. Polynesian islanders brought the first pigs to the islands several centuries ago. Capt. James Cook, the first European visitor, brought in reinforcements hundreds of years later.
Feral pigs in Hawaii inhabit dense cover, making it hard to determine how many live on the islands, says Stephen Miller, a conservation official with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Hawaii. They rip down and eat Hawaii's hapuu ferns, which soar more than 20 feet, leaving behind a barren forest floor that erodes to mud during rainfall and allowing weeds to spread unchecked.
Yet there is an upside to the pig problem: their taste.
"What struck me is that it wasn't sinewy," Miller says. "It was quite good, quite tender." |
http://agnews.tamu.edu/stories/WFSC/Jan1698a.htm
http://www.extension.org/pages/Wild_Pig_Damage_Assessment
http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/14284/wild-boar-rampage-raise-concerns-over-disease-and-damage |
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| This story has a few depressing aspects. It's sad that the animal was killed, sad that the boy is being raised as an animal serial killer, and really sad that the newspapers decided to write a cute fluff story patting the killer on the back for his "bravery." (And by implication, condoning the f*cked-up way his parents are bringing him up.) |
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bjonothan
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
Location: All over the place
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Different people get brought up different ways. I grew up shooting kangaroos and rabbits. Sometimes possums when we got bored as well. Was my family "f*cked up" too for letting me do that? Your post is rediculous. Are you a vegetarian? We all eat animals and someone had to kill them. Were the people who kill them "animal serial killers"? Or someone who is simply making money for their family? People like you make me laugh and pity you for being so stupid. If the animal is killed quickly I don't see any problem with it. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| bjonothan wrote: |
| Sometimes possums when we got bored as well. Was my family "f*cked up" too for letting me do that? |
For depleting the wildlife out of simple boredom?
Yes.
You hunt for two reasons only: To put food on the table, or to reduce over-population:
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| I will agree that a hog that size is rare however wild hog are not. They are all over the place ranging in just about all 50 states and do an incredible amount of damage to crops. |
See, now that's a good reason to hunt. |
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| bjonothan wrote: |
| Different people get brought up different ways. I grew up shooting kangaroos and rabbits. Sometimes possums when we got bored as well. Was my family "f*cked up" too for letting me do that? Your post is rediculous. Are you a vegetarian? We all eat animals and someone had to kill them. Were the people who kill them "animal serial killers"? Or someone who is simply making money for their family? People like you make me laugh and pity you for being so stupid. If the animal is killed quickly I don't see any problem with it. |
If you're looking for a flamewar, maybe you should drop in here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=88196&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 |
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HapKi
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Another thread in need of photos.
No doubt about it- the pig is freaking' huge!! It is a shame that a master specimen of any species has to die,
especially by a fat-assed 11 year old white-trash redneck with a gun bigger than Dirty Harry's.
On the other hand, if you're out hunting, it'd be hard to pass it up.
His website is up and running-
http://www.monsterpig.com/ |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| I salute the boy's bravery for standing his ground against that thing armed only with a handgun. |
Well, the stories I've read say that his dad and their guides were posted at the ready the entire time, with high-powered rifles aimed at the hog, just in case.
Now if he'd been hunting that hog alone with Dick Cheney, that'd be brave. |
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Nicco61
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: North Carolina, USA
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| HapKi wrote: |
Another thread in need of photos.
No doubt about it- the pig is freaking' huge!! It is a shame that a master specimen of any species has to die,
especially by a fat-assed 11 year old white-trash redneck with a gun bigger than Dirty Harry's.
On the other hand, if you're out hunting, it'd be hard to pass it up. |
That's quite a stereotype you lumped him in.  |
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