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Korean Kids are Violent Bunch
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Korean Kids are Violent Bunch Reply with quote

Compared to kids from other countries, I find Korean kids to be very violent.

They are always slapping, punching, kicking, poking (with pen/pencil or other lethal weapon), pushing, pulling, etc. etc. to each other.

WTF? Why do you think they are so violent?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been dongchimmed lately?
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
Been dongchimmed lately?


No, never. Thank god I don't teach kids.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah that explains it...

However violent you may think Korean kids are from a distance, once you teach them yourself you see they are a bunch of softies at heart compared to the brats and truely malevolent youth back home.
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pdx



Joined: 19 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really?

I taught fifth graders back at home. They were a much kinder, gentler, and more polite group than than the kids I had in Korea. I've never met a group of kids so obsessed with guns and violence.
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cosmo



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmo wrote:
I second that.
In a piano hagwon, my son was shot in the face with a pellet gun at close range.
The pellet hit one inch away from his eye.


I hope you pulled him out and told all the mom's why your son was leaving. I would never, ever send my kid to a school where pellet guns were permitted (even if the Korean ones are fairly low-velocity).
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The level of vandalism, theft and animosity of Korean youngsters I know pales in comparison to schoolmates of mine from way back when back home.

Of course I live and work in rural communities, not the big urban metropolises, so that could be a difference.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some of my horror stories about Korean kids.

Once me and some friends were playing soccer in a field. A pickup truck full of Koreans drove by and saw us, so they started calling us "Fgas!" Then they drove by again later and mooned us.

Outside a video store, I was waiting for my friend when three Koreans approached me. Two of them started picking a fight and the third moved away. I thought he wanted his friends to leave me alone but then he pulled out a video camera and started taping. My friend showed up shortly after that and I saw some other friends nearby who would've helped. The Koreans got the hint and left me alone.

A couple friends of mine were walking along when a car full of Koreans pulled up. One of them remarked that my friend looked like a skinhead. Words were exchanged so they got out. My friend punched the lead guy in the face, breaking his nose, and all the Koreans jumped back into their car and drove away.

One time I was at a show when two Koreans walked in with alcohol. I told them it wasn't allowed inside, so one of them grabbed my jacket and tried to start a fight with me.

Another time, I was in the park sitting on my scooter when some Koreans in Halloween costumes came up. One of them started yelling at me, making fun of my scooter, making fun of me, anything he could to to try and start a fight with me. Luckily I was sober enough to ignore him.

A friend of mine was walking home once from his radio show when he was jumped from behind by a gang of Koreans on meth. They took his backpack which contained a fortune in rare CDs.

Anyway, I've had a lot of problems with Koreans. They attack you without warning, sometimes for fun and sometimes for drug money.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
Ah that explains it...

However violent you may think Korean kids are from a distance, once you teach them yourself you see they are a bunch of softies at heart compared to the brats and truely malevolent youth back home.


I think if you had ever taught in the public school system, you would see a difference. Everyday, I pretty much have to break up a fight in the hallway. These are grade 5 students. At least once a day I have to punish a boy for punching a girl. Two things get to me while teaching. The first is that it is near impossible to get all the students to be quiet at once. The second is the constant hitting I see during class. Have you seen the way kids borrow pencils here? They don't ask. They hit the kid and then take their pencil case.

I don't think all schools are the same because my current school is a little worse than my last, but in both schools I saw a lot of violence. When I complan/mention it to my co-worker, she just acknowledges that it happens, but has a "what can you do" attitude. Her class is one of the best for students behaviour, as well, as it was last year too.
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huck



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racetraitor:

How did your friend know that the Korean kids were on meth? Because when I see Koreans acting strange, meth isn't the first thing that comes to mind.

What's an FGA?

Did your stories happen in Korea? Because comparing Korean people with Korean people abroad are two different things.


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ruffie



Joined: 11 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate pellet gun season in Korea. Korean kids shooting each other with them, shooting out the windows at people passing by, it's sick. What's even sicker is that a guy sells them from a big temporary setup outside the main gates of an elementary school near my school.

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Gemfinder



Joined: 15 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only have the students back home in the States to compare mine to and I was a student myself then - in quite a rough school system. I haven't seen a violent student here yet. I've seen a few punches thrown, but not a single student who is violent for the sake of being violent. These kids are softies, rough softies.

Back home, the teachers also had a screwed up public school system to deal with as well as gang violence and drugs. The only teachers who could get things done were the ones who laid down the law when it was needed without exception. Here, in my class, even with the youngest students, they know what's going to happen to them after they hit someone and saying, 'sorry teacher' won't clear their name.

I've actually seen the girls throw a fair number of punches. It's kind of hard to punish such a well-executed and sometimes deserved punch but rules are rules and they apply to both genders in my class.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huck wrote:
Racetraitor:

How did your friend know that the Korean kids were on meth? Because when I see Koreans acting strange, meth isn't the first thing that comes to mind.

What's an FGA?

Did your stories happen in Korea? Because comparing Korean people with Korean people abroad are two different things.


I would imagine that "fgas" = f a g s
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having worked in the classroom with Canadian teens, Korean kids and Korean teens I would say the overall level of violence here is much lower and very different from back home.

I worked in Toronto and many teachers were afraid to come to work because of how violent the kids have become. This is not all kids mind you but the violent ones are much worse than your average Korean student here.

In my former school there were 4 knife attacks on teachers in 2 years and many cases of intimidation in class.

In nearly ten years here I have never been physically threatened by a student.

Korean kids are in general more "physical" with each other as this is allowed here. When you look closely, you see how harmless this really is most of the time.

As for the obsession with guns and violence...well Korean kids cannot hold a candle to most kids in my former school....

Here I worked in the PS system too and there were fights as ajgeddes said. But the overall level of violence between kids and directed at teachers is, in my experience much, much lower here.
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