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Is a criminal history a problem for prospective teachers?
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klyfusprufrock



Joined: 18 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Is a criminal history a problem for prospective teachers? Reply with quote

Hello folks,

I regrettably have a criminal history in the United States, and am trying to becomes an ESL teacher in South Korea. The gears are in motion to get me the teaching job, but I wonder if the criminal history will terminate the possibility. I have considered both the possibility that my passport application won't go through, and the potential for the Korean school to run a background check. My crime, to my shame, is that I drove while intoxicated with a .083 blood alcohol level. Maybe I should have hired a lawyer back when it happened.

Thanks for any help anyone can give,
Kyle
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: question... Reply with quote

was your DUI a misdemeanor or a federal charge? I am not an attorney, but I believe the things they are looking for most are people with criminal records involving those things that would fit into the federal crimes area...Did you receive any jail time or probation? How long has it been? If you don't want to say you can message me, and I'll ask some questions for you to the people in my local city offices...
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Peter Jackson



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Hi Reply with quote

Hi there,

I'm Canadian so I'm not sure about how the American system works but my brother had a DUI and he had to apply for a pardon in order to get a passport and work abroad. It took quite a while, involved lots of paperwork, etc but was granted without too much trouble.

You would have to check with the authorities in your state for details.

In terms of Korea, background checks are generally NOT done. Public school jobs may ask for them but this can sometimes be avoided.

I know in Canada there are diffferent levels of police checks. Police checks are NOT needed for the Korean visa and I don't think your employer would be too concerned about a DUI. Violent or drug offenses, or crimes against children would seem to be what they would be looking for.

Good luck.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can be a convicted murderer and sex offender and work in any of 95% of the thousands of hagwons in Korea as long as you've served your time in order to get through immigration control at the airport.

But if you want to work in the public schools then the nature of your crime might disqualify you during your criminal record check, dunno.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't get a passport if you have a criminal record in US/

Is that why only 30% of you have passports. Are the rest of you criminals?

Oh hang I might be mixing up the Ozzies
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jbpatlanta



Joined: 02 Jun 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Is a criminal history a problem for prospective teachers Reply with quote

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Ianinilsan



Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A criminal conviction will limit your job prospects. A hakwan owner can have a rap sheet a mile long and still own a hakwan.
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jmbran11



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most hogwans and private corporations don't do a criminal check. Stay away from public schools, or any recruiter who requires a background check. It's simple. Don't disclose it.

I've never heard of anyone being denied a passport for having a criminal record. As long as you are not violating any terms of parole, I'd say go for it.
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re.: public schools-yep. For my current contract I had to provide a criminal record document to get the job.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just go get a police check at your local PD.

If you are not in the same state as the DUI it won't show up.

cbc
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CoDeReBeL



Joined: 04 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
You can't get a passport if you have a criminal record in US/

Is that why only 30% of you have passports. Are the rest of you criminals?

Oh hang I might be mixing up the Ozzies


Guess again. I have a criminal record and a passport. I have heard, however, that if you've been convicted of a felony that they won't give you one. (Which makes me wonder why in the hell we want to keep all of our felons inside this country so they can commit more felonies here.)
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CoDeReBeL



Joined: 04 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
Just go get a police check at your local PD.

If you are not in the same state as the DUI it won't show up.

cbc


It's not necessarily that simple. I had to get one from the state criminal investigation agency. However, this...

jmbran11 wrote:
Most hogwans and private corporations don't do a criminal check. Stay away from public schools, or any recruiter who requires a background check. It's simple. Don't disclose it.


...makes me wonder if I should bother to show it to anybody in Korea (if and) when I ever get there.
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
Just go get a police check at your local PD.

If you are not in the same state as the DUI it won't show up.

cbc


Wrong.. If it was filed in a district court or a city with a court of record. It will show up wherever you are.. Even now in most smaller cities they send the traffic tickets to your local Department of Public Safety and they will show up on a drivers license check.

Then there are..

1. Interstate compacts, States share information... that is why if your license is suspended in one state you cant go to another state and get a new oen.

2. NCIC all fingerprint cards are intered into this. Federal and State.

So unless you used false information as to where you lived and who you are it will show up..

Now will a simple DUI matter Probably not.. I dont think most Koreans would even know how to begin to read a completed US criminal histroy or background check.
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
You can't get a passport if you have a criminal record in US/

Is that why only 30% of you have passports. Are the rest of you criminals?

Oh hang I might be mixing up the Ozzies


Don't you know your Australian history? We're all criminals at heart, and proud of it! Laughing
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rhinocharge64



Joined: 20 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having a drink driving disqualification does not disqualify you from working for government here in Korea. This is fact, and not heresay. If you need any more details please feel free to p.m. me.

Regards The Charge
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