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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: I'm in a dilemma... |
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I am a certified teacher. I work at a hagwon where I really don't like my hours. I work 2:30-10:30 all the way in Ilsan. I have like no time to meet my best friend except on the weekends. It's hard to socialize with my schedule, and it's tiring me out. I also make 2.0 million, but I do make 2.6, in the end, because I work Saturdays. But I have to be at work for 8 hours every week day even if I don't have many students. I teach adults. I have done six months so far. Should I finish this off and get my severance or go to a public school. I am kind of tormented about it, but I hate my schedule.... It's really hard to do anything.... I like the severance pay, but I don't know... I have 7 months at a hagwon that went bankrupt, and now 6 months at this one. I initially wanted to go to a public school not a hagwon, but my recruiter told me there was nothing he saw, and I can't speak Korean, and I was fighting my ex-boss and kind of broke. The situation is different now....
I would appreciate some advice... |
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happygirl
Joined: 20 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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It's not just the severence pay, but also your employers contribution to the National Pension plan and the plane ticket. If you aren't going to go home between contracts many owners will give you the cash. That adds up!
2m severence + 2.4 (or more) pension + 1m airfare = 5.4 m+ won you'd be throwing out the window. Is it worth it? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| happygirl wrote: |
It's not just the severence pay, but also your employers contribution to the National Pension plan and the plane ticket. If you aren't going to go home between contracts many owners will give you the cash. That adds up!
2m severence + 2.4 (or more) pension + 1m airfare = 5.4 m+ won you'd be throwing out the window. Is it worth it? |
But I was going to go home, anyway, in December.... I would be losing only the severance.... The pension is paid in every month. I have six months of pension now. I am at work 56 hours from Monday to Friday and another 7 or 8 on Saturdays to make 2.6 million, and I am a certified teacher. I am working for peanuts and at work for over 60 hours a week.. Consider that... I can't even have much time to see my best friend... It's pathetic... |
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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How easy would it be to quit and get the LOR? Would your current place do that? Or would you have to pull a runner? Could you try negotiating about the hours or pay?
Alot of places just might not let you leave; or if they fire you, it might cost you alot more money than just the lost severance and pension. If you and your school agree about just letting you go peacefully and they are willing to give you the LOR, Id say leave for PS job! If they wont let you go and they're going to dock you even more pay and totally bankrupt you or cause you to be blacklisted until your visa runs out after 6 months because you did a runner, I'd wait it out. Thats just me, though.... |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: I'm in a dilemma... |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| I have 7 months at a hagwon that went bankrupt, and now 6 months at this one. |
I would suck it up and plow on through to the end of this contract. If you don't, you've got two consecutive uncompleted contracts on your immigration record. They don't like handing out more visas to people they don't think can even finish one contract. |
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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Yep-agree w/Frankenstein...for the same reasons plus the money consideration. |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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I see your problem, but I think the others may be correct. Maybe you can get them to drop the Saturday classes. That would make it easier for you.
If you're worried about the timing for the public school, you should have enough money saved up that you could take a long vacation or certification class during that time and then be ready for the public schools. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| riley wrote: |
I see your problem, but I think the others may be correct. Maybe you can get them to drop the Saturday classes. That would make it easier for you.
If you're worried about the timing for the public school, you should have enough money saved up that you could take a long vacation or certification class during that time and then be ready for the public schools. |
I didn't finish the first contract because the last school went bankrupt. I was actually supposed to go home in April of this year. I needless to say after 7 months was in a bind, because she wouldn't give me last paycheck without a fight, I couldn't speak Korean, and my recruiter wasn't helping me find a public school job, and immigration doesn't speak English, so it is kind of Korea's fault not mine that I ended up in this second job. I know what I wanted. I am working about 60 hours for 2.6 million. If I drop the Saturdays I only will make 2 million won and be at work 52 hours instead of 58 hours. What would you do in my shoes? I can get a Letter of Release. My contract says I need to give 45 days notice. So I am entitled to that. I kept that in mind when I signed. Another thing, my job technically violates Korean labour law, by not giving me 10 paid vacation days. I technically get some which I negotiated while my colleagues didn't get any. They are leaving, anyway. I don't blame them. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| so it is kind of Korea's fault not mine that I ended up in this second job. |
Immigration doesn't care what the reasons are that you don't finish contracts. They just see the end result. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Adventurer wrote: |
| so it is kind of Korea's fault not mine that I ended up in this second job. |
Immigration doesn't care what the reasons are that you don't finish contracts. They just see the end result. |
Well, I asked one of my co-workers, and he know fellow who did that with no problem... I am following the law and getting a letter of release. If they ask about the person, it went bankrupt. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| 60 classes a week. Welcome to the Hogawn drag. Welcome to Korea. |
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