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Should the U.S. legalize 12 million illegal immigrants?
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Should the U.S. legalize 12 million illegal immigrants?
Yes
37%
 37%  [ 10 ]
No
62%
 62%  [ 17 ]
Total Votes : 27

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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Should the U.S. legalize 12 million illegal immigrants? Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070607/ap_on_go_co/immigration_congress

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and give many of the country's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants a pathway to legal status.
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thebum



Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Location: North Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Re: Should the U.S. legalize 12 million illegal immigrants? Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070607/ap_on_go_co/immigration_congress

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and give many of the country's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants a pathway to legal status.


yes!
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn immigrants, don't they know that America was once open to European immigration only? Now that European immigrants don't want to come anymore, AMERICA IS CLOSED! We tried letting a few immigrants into America of non-European descent and look at what's happening, THEY CANNOT ASSIMILATE TO OUR EUROPEAN CULTURAL CREDO! THEY REFUSE TO ABANDON THEIR LANGUAGE, CUSTOMS AND CULTURE FOR OURS! What kind of Americans are these? These people will never and could never be "real" Americans! They want to change America and I will not have one bit of that going on; hell fcking no, dammit! So the answer is "hell no!" No more immigrants!

Wink

Just kidding.

I voted "yes." Let anyone who wants to come here be happy.

I have a feeling I will get flamed, so I hope everyone reads all of what I've written.


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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely not. Talk about setting a bad precedent.
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Yo!Chingo



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF not? They already set the precedent in the 80's?!? PARTY!!!!!










Not!!!
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think everyone needs to go through the regular channels to become a citizen. Immigration is great for the U.S., but legally should be encouraged not discouraged.

I'm in South Korea now.. legally. What if Korea had some system where if I was here ILLEGALLY for awhile, I could live and vote for South Korean presidents and live here the rest of my life without a problem.. but by being here legal with my e-2 visa.. I am unqualified for that?
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cangel



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will I still be able to buy cheap fruit and vegetables?
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cangel wrote:
Will I still be able to buy cheap fruit and vegetables?


But of course! I am sure plenty of "real American families" will want to lend out their high school aged children to do back-breaking part time work picking strawberries in Watsonville, California if the migrant laborers get the heave-ho. Laughing
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insam



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

live and let live, the more the merrier
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes or no? Shocked

Give the world a fu688in break.

Your false dilemma falacious question is the problem buddy.

Think about it Rolling Eyes
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mexican labour is not your enemy America !
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
Mexican labour is not your enemy AmeriKa !


Ummmmmm ...

you forgot to mention the "key" operative word here Islander:























illegal Idea
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
you forgot to mention the "key" operative word here... illegal Idea

Oh.. so then let's start with what the Bush Adminstration, CIA, several congressmen and senators have done contrary to the law and the Constitution.

The new Kennedy-McCain bill is addressing the paper legality of immigration.

Let's not engage in circular reasoning here.
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Nowhere Man



Joined: 08 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

That would mean 12 million people who now qualify for minimum wage. Would the companies who employ them then fire them and import new illegals?

I'm undecided on the issue, but I'm pretty sure the problem's source is the businesses who employ illegal immigrants. Is there language in this immigration reform that addresses such hiring practices?

If there's not, then I doubt this is much of a solution.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.

The Americans need a total overhaul of the system. And, out of a principle of fairness, those who broke the law should not be given special treatment over those who are toiling through the system (like me).

But the labour is needed, and the culture can handle large influxes of foreigners.

They need to allow firms to employ whoever they want, legally, within reason. The guest worker idea is excellent, as is the move towards a point system. People ought to be able to import immediate members of family with some small restrictions (elderly parents are not able to qualify for social security, Medicare/medicade...the importing individual must provide for them these services). Criminals, cronically ill (Canada often gives refugee status to HIV pos Africans who manage to touch Canadian soil...which is practically the definition of bad immigration policy) and those individuals who come from nations that actively teach hate and murder as a state/religious ideology (no comment) should be fully prevented from touching American soil and quickly deported in the event that they do.

America is a nation of immigrants. It is also a nation of laws. It must remain BOTH.
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